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Battle Optic Groupings

Discussion in 'Optics' started by Medic218, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. Medic218

    Medic218 Active Member

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    I recently picked up my first LPVO so not having traditional cross-hairs and shooting super tight groups is killing my OCD and using the tip of the chevron is definitely taking some getting used to.
    So, when zeroing an optic with a battle reticle, like the ACSS, what do you think is an acceptable 100 yard group?
     


  2. EZ-E

    EZ-E Freedom vs Tyranny 2020 TGT Supporter

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    A lot of your grouping will depend on ammo selection.
    I was sighting in an AR in 5.56 this weekend with a red dot. I used WOLF 55gr to get it on paper at 10,25 & 50 yards. At 50 yards the Wolf was grouping about 4"-5". I loaded up some 55gr Bthp with 24.3 grains & got it down to about 2" @ 50yards.

    With good ammo at 100 yards id say 2-3" could be possible.
     
  3. Medic218

    Medic218 Active Member

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    And I figured 2-3" would be ok since you're really only shooting for minute of man here but I still wanted to see what the masses had to say.
    I was kind of rushed on my first trip out with it so I left the range feeling like I accomplished little to nothing other than getting on paper.
    I'll take my time tomorrow and hopefully have some better results.
     
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  4. FireInTheWire

    FireInTheWire Ego kills talent TGT Supporter

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    I can't say I've ever tried a tight group with a battle optic @ 100yrds.
     
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  5. toddnjoyce

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    For perspective, ‘acceptable’ with an ACOG in most military qualifications is a 10” ring center of mass at 300yds, so I’d say 3” groupings at 100 is acceptable.
     
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  6. easy rider

    easy rider Slacker Extraordinaire TGT Supporter

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    Shooting my M10X with my Primary Arms 3x ACSS and staying inside the 8"x8" target is acceptable to me at 100 yds. Of course I'm shooting Wolf 7.62x39 ammo.
     
  7. Medic218

    Medic218 Active Member

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    I went back out today, on my own, and was able to take my time.
    In all I spent four hours looking down the scope so now everything appears a hair fuzzy. lol
    I shot several different brands/loads of ammo and found three I felt were superior, a few that were serviceable and the rest were just a mess.

    A brief run down is as follows...
    AE M193(50/100): 1"-2" / 3"-4"
    Frontier M193(50/100): 1"-2" / 3"-4"(This seemed to group oddly compared to the AE M193)
    Frontier 556 62gr SP(100): 2.5"-3.5"
    Federal Fusion 223 62gr(50/100): 2" / 3"
    Federal 223 55gr Nosler Tip(50/100): 1.25-1.50" / 1.25"-3"
    Winchester 556 55gr FMJ(50/100): 2" / 4"
    Winchester 223 64gr Power Point(50/100): 2"-2.5" / 3.5"
    Hornady Black 556 62gr(50/100): 1" / 4"
    Hornady Black 223 62gr(50/100): 1"-2.5" / 5.5"
    Hornady 223 55gr SP(50/100): 0.5"-2" / 2"
    Fiocchi Extrema 223 55gr PSP(50/100): 1"-2" / 1"-2"
    PPU 223 Match 69gr HPBT(50/100): 1.25" / 3.5"-4"
    Black Hills 223 68gr Heavy Match HP(50/100): 3" / 3.5"
    Black Hills 223 69gr Match(50/100): 2" / 4.5"
    Black HIlls 223 75gr Match HP(50/100): 4.25" / 4.5"
    Black HIlls 223 77gr HP(50/100): 1.25" / 1.5"
     
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  8. ZX9RCAM

    ZX9RCAM Over the Rainbow bridge... TGT Supporter

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    Damn, you did experiment...
     
  9. Vaquero

    Vaquero San Saba Songbird

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    I'm toting my handloads. Done all the testing.
    "I pity the fool"
     
  10. Orbie

    Orbie Born Texan TGT Supporter

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    AE M193 is my go to for plinking.
     


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