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  • ronbwolf

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    I'm with the, "let them stew," crowd. One of the things that most people don't realize, is how difficult it is to hire new officers. Having 100 people apply, boils down to maybe 1 officer getting hired, 2 out of 3 hired and put in the academy don't graduate, 1 in 3 makes probation, and 1 out of 3 will be retained for 5 years or more. Losing 180-230 officers (and this number probably means a lot of Sgt and above) will reshape the department for decades.
     

    CavCop

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    With Texas citizens having to wait 2.5 hours for police to show up to a head on crash with a possible drunk driver, and people drag racing in the streets that they shut down, clearly APD is like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, New York city, and other places that have failed to enforce laws and maintain control of their cities and are a failed reactive city vs a proactive city with law enforcement.

    Austin has been going down hill for years. It’s probably a good thing to have DPS step in. A lot of officers I know have had horrible dealings in Austin with their police response, along with selective enforcement of state laws.

    Hope DPS can make a dent.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    With Texas citizens having to wait 2.5 hours for police to show up to a head on crash with a possible drunk driver, and people drag racing in the streets that they shut down, clearly APD is like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, New York city, and other places that have failed to enforce laws and maintain control of their cities and are a failed reactive city vs a proactive city with law enforcement.

    Austin has been going down hill for years. It’s probably a good thing to have DPS step in. A lot of officers I know have had horrible dealings in Austin with their police response, along with selective enforcement of state laws.

    Hope DPS can make a dent.
    Its not APD's failure to enforce laws... its council's and a DA with an agenda of non-prosecution where arresting a criminal means they get only a few hours time out before released from jail or charges are completely dropped, even in slam-dunk cases.

    The citizens voted for this they must feel the pain of their choices or they will continue along this path.

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    Its not APD's failure to enforce laws... its council's and a DA with an agenda of non-prosecution where arresting a criminal means they get only a few hours time out before released from jail or charges are completely dropped, even in slam-dunk cases.

    The citizens voted for this they must feel the pain of their choices or they will continue along this path.

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    leVieux

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    There is some historical precedent. Back in the late 1960s, after decades of increasing citizen complaints, the Governor of Louisiana ordered hundreds of State Troopers into New Orleans during the Mardi Gras.

    The reasons were somewhat different, however. In Louisiana, the citizens were complaining about their mistreatment by the NOPD, which was brutal and the complaints were valid.

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    Its not APD's failure to enforce laws... its council's and a DA with an agenda of non-prosecution where arresting a criminal means they get only a few hours time out before released from jail or charges are completely dropped, even in slam-dunk cases.

    The citizens voted for this they must feel the pain of their choices or they will continue along this path.

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    I know enough officers there and have been to Austin a number of times to know Officers are not pro active but reactive. Expired registration and inspection stickers were all to common years ago, and marijuana laws were not enforced at Domestic Violence calls, and minimal actions were taken. That Police respond to scenes and just sit on them to pass them off to other officers, be it a vehicle crash or an armed robbery at a store. That small crimes don’t get reports, so people don’t justice, and criminals know they can keep doing what they do. Things have only gotten worse.

    A 2.5 hour response time for a head on crash with air bags deployed, and the possible drunk driver goes free? City Council and the Higher Brass has had years to address issues. How often does the brass and trash hit the streets? How often to police let communities know they are there and there are rules?

    San Francisco, Portland, Baltimore, Austin, their Chiefs of Police and Officers are letting their citizens down. They, the police are not enforcing laws, they doing less than the minimum to maintain law and order and failing their citizens they swore to protect.


    DPS stepping in, is what citizens need, even if it’s just responding to, and enforcing traffic codes and backing up Austin Officers.

     

    innominate

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    I am sure they have dedicated traffic units that officers stay productive at, to generate extra revenue via citations. I doubt their average patrol offers do traffic stops.
    I think the dedicated units went away after the budget cuts. But I could be mistaken
     

    leVieux

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    The issue will have to be unfucked... if the City won't do it the State will.

    The "doing cop work" is still the same, but we are insanely short handed, 1995 staffing levels for a city that has quadrupled in size...

    I wouldn't talk someone wanting to come to APD out of it at all, there is more OT than you can shake a stick at*, but there are a lot of cities that support their police and pay just as good or better.


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    Everyone I know in Austin supports their Police Officers, if not the APD HQ folks.
     

    CavCop

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    writing traffic tickets isn't the same as reducing crime.

    It plays a part, and traffic stops lead to bigger things. More police encounters, catches more criminals, and criminals know what areas get enforced more. Granted it’s like wack-a-mole, but it’s better than a whole lawn full of weeds.
     

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    The state’s top law enforcement agency will beef up its presence in Austin and help local police handle violent crime and traffic incidents, city and state officials said Monday.

    The move — agreed upon by Austin Mayor Kirk Watson, Gov. Greg Abbott and Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick — is a dramatic response as the city’s police department struggles with persistent vacancies in its officer ranks, a problem in virtually every major police department in the country. Austin has also had problems with long response times to emergency calls.

    This weakens law enforcement for the entire state of Texas so that the highest tax rate county in Texas can defund Austin Police Department. Please write or call your state rep and express your outrage!
     

    cycleguy2300

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    I read where APD has 80 officers that have put in their retirement papers for the month of April. That is going to hurt but you get the government you vote for.
    Iirc 89 so far or scheduled. A good number are waiting until 4/10? because of financial reasons and many have been keeping their plans on the DL...

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