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AR lowers aren't rifles?

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by Dawico, Oct 13, 2019.

  1. Bobk

    Bobk Active Member

    Nov 8, 2008
    This may be something along the lines of the .50 BMG uppers and the slippery slope.

  2. avvidclif

    avvidclif Sturgis '95, RFTW 2010

    Aug 30, 2017
    Van Zandt County
    What is a 1 pounder Gatling Gun. Google is clueless.
  3. satx78247

    satx78247 TGT Addict

    Jun 23, 2014

    SIMPLE (and I cannot imagine that there's nothing google, but I'll take your word for it), A "one pounder" Gatling Gun is a "pretty normal looking" Gatling, which was mounted on a wheeled carriage & towed by a team of horses or mules.
    ADDENDA: Normally, one or more horse or mule -drawn ammunition carts followed the Gatling Guns to the place of utilization.

    The "one pounder" was in the S-W era considered to be both a piece of light artillery AND/OR a "long-range" direct fire weapon, depending on the ammo that was being used.
    (If memory serves me correctly, the maximum effective direct-fire range against point targets was in excess of 2000 yards.)

    The "big" Gatling Gun (Gatling Guns were chambered in any number of calibers from .38RF to the "one Pound" shell - At the engagements at San Juan & Kettle Hills there were both Gatling Guns in .30-40 Krag caliber & the One Pounder guns. Further, at least one newspaper reporter stated in a wartime article in the NY JOURNAL that the Rough Riders also had "acquired" a pair of Gatling Guns in 7x57mm caliber, which were also used in the S-A War.) was chambered for a shell which fired a shell that had a ONE POUND projectile.
    (Actually the loaded shell weighed well over 2.5 pounds.)

    Historical Note: The Rough Riders also had SIX 7x57mm Colt's Machine Guns (which are commonly called "Tater Diggers"), which they had brought to Cuba. - Those 6 guns were "loaned" to the Rough Riders by TIFFANY's JEWELRY STORES of NYC, because one of L.C. Tiffany's sons was a SGT with the Rough Riders.
    (SGT Tiffany was KIA while manning one of the Colt's MG from his position atop Kettle Hill about 3/4 of an hour before San Juan Hill was taken by a combination of the 9th Cavalry's Buffalo Soldiers & at least 3 companies of the Rough Riders.)

    After the War concluded, Tiffany's requested that their 6 MGs be returned to them. FOUR of the guns were returned to the company about 45 days after the return was requested. - The other 2 guns were NOT returned & were "presumed lost" in the War.
    (About 18 months ago, the other two MGs were found behind a partition in the basement of COL Roosevelt's home in Oyster Bay, NY & still packed in a wooden crate that still bears "shipping labels" for return to Tiffany's, Inc. = As Tiffany's, when they were offered to be returned to the company, said, "No thank you", those 2 guns will be placed on "long-term loan" to the Smithsonian Institute & will be displayed at the American History Museum, when a suitable display is completed in 2020.)

    yours, satx
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2019
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  4. kozmic

    kozmic Member

    Dec 9, 2013
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  5. DyeF9

    DyeF9 In Thrust We Trust

    Jan 25, 2019
    Red Oak TX
    So this is how it reads to me,
    "That part of a firearm which provides housing for the hammer, bolt or breechblock,"

    Is an or statement, indicating the requirement of one of these three items.

    "and firing mechanism, and which is usually threaded at its forward portion to receive the barrel"

    And the requirement of a firing mechanism. In this case the workings of the trigger should do. It doesn't state it must be threaded to the barrel, only that it can be.

    I could be wrong, but per definition it seems reasonable to make a lower the serialized part, legally.

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  6. tonelar

    tonelar Active Member

    Aug 9, 2009
    El Paso
    in some states the AR lower receiver is DROS’d as a long gun. making AR pistols very scarce.
  7. benenglish

    benenglish Lifetime Supporter Staff Member Lifetime Member Admin

    Nov 22, 2011
    I didn't know that.
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