APD changing their response policy due to personnel shortages?

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First saw this in Detroit after their bankruptcy. That was also when the Chief of the DPD said get a gun as we can't save you. Next read about it in England. It was the Metropolitan police (London) that went to it - something about needing more officers to investigate "hate" crimes.
 

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The shortage is real.
APD has lost hundreds of officers and is staffed at the same level as it was in 2008 when the population was half of what it is today.

The shortage will get much worse.
Almost five years ago, the City played dirty and pushed APD into a terrible contract. Only a few officers think the city will do anything but try to shove another bad contract down our throat and cut every financial benefit we have fought for, the largest of which is the sell back of earned comp and vacation time upon retirement and any Officer, Cpl, Detective, Sgt who has the time to retire will. The last I heard there will be around 200 will have time enough to drop paper early 2022 and I know of no one with time who won't leave as soon as they can. Running one academy a year, outputting 75ish officers won't come close to matching the bleeding of 150-200 officers a year we have had the last two years.

By 2022 APD will be staffed at the same number of officers as it was around the year 2000...

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The shortage is real.
APD has lost hundreds of officers and is staffed at the same level as it was in 2008 when the population was half of what it is today.

The shortage will get much worse.
Almost five years ago, the City played dirty and pushed APD into a terrible contract. Only a few officers think the city will do anything but try to shove another bad contract down our throat and cut every financial benefit we have fought for, the largest of which is the sell back of earned comp and vacation time upon retirement and any Officer, Cpl, Detective, Sgt who has the time to retire will. The last I heard there will be around 200 will have time enough to drop paper early 2022 and I know of no one with time who won't leave as soon as they can. Running one academy a year, outputting 75ish officers won't come close to matching the bleeding of 150-200 officers a year we have had the last two years.

By 2022 APD will be staffed at the same number of officers as it was around the year 2000...

Buckle up because we are along for a ride.

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Sounds like the same story playing out here as in other big liberal run cities. Over on the left coast, Portland Police has been hurting and under staffed for years. They started reducing their qualifications - they used to require a bachelors or better just to apply, then it dropped to an associates degree, last I knew they reduced to the state standard of a High School Diploma or GED. They don't DQ for MJ use, and with decriminalization of hard drugs - they're probably not drug testing applicants at all at this point. Starting pay was among the highest in the state, but the city did NOT have the backs of the police, they burn thru Chiefs in under two years, typically, and they suffer from the same lack of leadership that the officer who wrote that anonymous note mentioned.

Seattle PD likewise has been seeing an exodus for years, and a lack of recruits to fill vacancies.

You cannot throw enough money at the "right" applicants when you don't respect them, won't stand behind them, and when you consistently throw them under the bus. Only those ultimately unfit for the job will jump at it for the pay or the power - and the people and the good cops just trying to make it to retirement are the ones who will suffer the consequences.

My days of interest in pursuing that line of work are behind me, but Austin seems like another Portland to me (they even use the same stupid "keep ___ weird" motto too...) The voters are really ultimately to blame, because they keep putting the people into power who are creating the policies and problems who cannot legislate or regulate their way out of a paper bag.
 

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Sounds like the same story playing out here as in other big liberal run cities. Over on the left coast, Portland Police has been hurting and under staffed for years. They started reducing their qualifications - they used to require a bachelors or better just to apply, then it dropped to an associates degree, last I knew they reduced to the state standard of a High School Diploma or GED. They don't DQ for MJ use, and with decriminalization of hard drugs - they're probably not drug testing applicants at all at this point. Starting pay was among the highest in the state, but the city did NOT have the backs of the police, they burn thru Chiefs in under two years, typically, and they suffer from the same lack of leadership that the officer who wrote that anonymous note mentioned.

Seattle PD likewise has been seeing an exodus for years, and a lack of recruits to fill vacancies.

You cannot throw enough money at the "right" applicants when you don't respect them, won't stand behind them, and when you consistently throw them under the bus. Only those ultimately unfit for the job will jump at it for the pay or the power - and the people and the good cops just trying to make it to retirement are the ones who will suffer the consequences.

My days of interest in pursuing that line of work are behind me, but Austin seems like another Portland to me (they even use the same stupid "keep ___ weird" motto too...) The voters are really ultimately to blame, because they keep putting the people into power who are creating the policies and problems who cannot legislate or regulate their way out of a paper bag.
Back in the 90's Washington, DC, was paying for not doing full background checks - something about speeding up the process for hiring. The result was police providing information to drug dealers, providing security for drug dealers, and even dealing drugs themselves. If memory serves, they even killed a LEO to boot.
 

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On another forum, a current citizen of Austin claims he had not heard about the new non-emergency response procedures as well as saying that there is no correlation between the presence of police and reduction in crime. They also said the APD budget is at the highest ever.

I think I might need to try what they are smoking.
 

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I mentioned earlier that Austin is becoming much like the left coast metropolises...

the city of Seattle is facing an emergency because of their stupid jab mandates:


They have decided that all sworn personnel shall now report to work in uniform, ready for patrol assignments regardless of position - the detectives and special unit people are back on the beat. There are over 200 officers who haven't taken the Coof Juice, and in 5 days those officers will be out of a job if they don't "comply" or be allowed a religious / medical exemption. This is in an agency with less than 1,000 current sworn personnel, that was already in the midst of a shortage of officers even before the BLM / George Floyd nonsense - Seattle has had a hard time recruiting new officers because like other liberal cities, they throw cops under the bus and blame them when situations break bad. Crazy guy with a knife refuses to comply, cops shoot him - cops are labelled the bad guys, city's insurance pays out over wrongful death settlements. Drug addicts shooting up heroin on the sidewalks and leaving needles on your door step? Its all good, man - the city decriminalized hard drugs years ago thru prosecutors declining to charge them, and the city policy won't allow them to be arrested anymore. Drug zombies everywhere. Petty crimes are up, prosecutions are down and the police aren't allowed to do their jobs. Then you get last years stupidity with "The CHAZ" where city "leaders" abandoned a police precinct and ordered the cops to pull back. That lead to the deaths of multiple individuals when the warlords started shooting people. Rapes were frequent. The warlords tried extorting local businesses and residents. The city did NOTHING.

If Austin's citizens don't change how they vote and demand change from their "leaders" - the same will happen there.
 

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They have decided that all sworn personnel shall now report to work in uniform, ready for patrol assignments regardless of position - the detectives and special unit people are back on the beat.

At some point, the backlog of cases that would normally be investigated and cleared by detectives and those special units will reach critical mass and might just offer an enterprising individual or group a real opportunity to clean up their streets.
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