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  • Fishkiller

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    Not here in the big town. Back during the last shortage in 2013 or 2014 I inspected an ammo plant in Idaho. They were producing 1 million 22 rounds per day. And you still could not find it on the shelves. Hoarders will hoard and til that stops the "shortage" will continue.
     

    Brains

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    Royalecheese

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    Remington production will help, but I'm going to guess it will still be the end of summer or heading into late fall before store shelves begin to hold product for more than a few hours. I would love to be wrong about that and have the stores filled to the ceiling by July, but thousands of new gun owners and the wackiness coming out of DC only help throw fuel on the fire to keep buying anything and everything.

    One of the few reassuring things I see is many ammo auctions on gunbroker for popular calibers like 9mm and .223 ending with zero bids. Gunbroker is always overpriced, but this tells me parts of the market could be swinging back toward equilibrium or many people have tired of paying stupid prices which in turn should drive the price down a bit on the secondary market, and in turn help keep more product on the shelves.

    One can hope.
     

    TexMex247

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    My gun show buyer is backing off of 5.56 and 12 ga ammo. Definitely a sign that some calibers are catching up. At one point he was buying slugs and buckshot from me at $2/Rd and somehow still had room to profit. The 22 drought will probably last the longest imo. No reasonable person is going to reload those.
     

    TX oddball

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    It is a given that supply will eventually come back. But as far as pricing, IMO we're in a whole new era. The ammo companies have watched the public eat up $50 boxes of 9mm. The days of $8.99 boxes of 9mm (my price mere days before the Covid panic in early 2020) are long gone.
     

    Txhillbilly

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    Prices will reflect what the buyer's are willing to pay. If it ever gets back to shelves being stocked deep for long periods of time at higher prices, then the prices will come down.

    It all comes down to supply and demand.

    The sad thing is it will happen again, and again down the road. And the same people that cry and whine about not having ammo will be at it again because they never can learn to stock up when supplies are abundant.
     

    Hoji

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    Prices will reflect what the buyer's are willing to pay. If it ever gets back to shelves being stocked deep for long periods of time at higher prices, then the prices will come down.

    It all comes down to supply and demand.

    The sad thing is it will happen again, and again down the road. And the same people that cry and whine about not having ammo will be at it again because they never can learn to stock up when supplies are abundant.
    Yep. Only excuse one could have this go around is they turned 18 during 2020
     

    Axxe55

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    If and when ammo becomes more available again on the shelves at more decent prices, at some point something will happen again in the future to cause another ammo shortage, and the same people that looked to profit off this one and the last one, will be right there to hoard and profit off the next ammo crisis.
     

    Hoji

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    If and when ammo becomes more available again on the shelves at more decent prices, at some point something will happen again in the future to cause another ammo shortage, and the same people that looked to profit off this one and the last one, will be right there to hoard and profit off the next ammo crisis.
    It is very easy to prevent them from profiting of of you though
     

    cygunner

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    Fairfield Village Academy had 9mm and some .40 cal I saw for sure about 1:00PM today. I was looking for 20 ga buck but winchester on that.
     

    cygunner

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    If and when ammo becomes more available again on the shelves at more decent prices, at some point something will happen again in the future to cause another ammo shortage, and the same people that looked to profit off this one and the last one, will be right there to hoard and profit off the next ammo crisis.
    Take that to the bank. Never fails.
     

    Glenn B

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    Some of you guys seem to fault hoarders, then say they sold ammo to profit during the shortage. How is it they are hoarding if selling it as soon as they get it?

    Then again, as for actual hoarding or prepping - what is wrong with acquiring enough ammo to hold you over through the Zombie Apocalypse or buying just as much as you want and are capable of buying for whatever reason?

    I mean, if you (generic you - not anyone in particular) are one of those guys who buys a box or two of 30-30 (or any caliber) a year, at most, because all you use it for is hunting or shooting now and then - then I think you are a fool if you lived through the last few ammo shortages before this one. Why? Because you evidently learned nothing. I have a substantial number of rounds of ammo on hand. I bought them with my legitimately and hard earned money. I learned my lesson after the first ammo buying frenzy but to tell the truth I already had thousands of rounds in store before it. I lived through the Cold War and learned it's lessons well, I think. No bombs were ever dropped on us, my family did not need to use all the small store of food & supplies we were able to build up (we were dirt poor - no pot to piss in, no window to throw it out of and no ground to catch it) because of a war with Russia or China. What we had, we had for such anticipated emergencies - which never materialized thank goodness. Yet, there were plenty of lessor emergencies over the years. So, when we needed what we had built up in stock and kept building up as we went along- or as you guys would say that we had hoarded - we were prepared and made out fairly well.

    Today, for me, it is the same with food & supplies as with ammo. I keep stocking up regardless of current prices and rotate out what is old with new stuff. As for the unprepared, who refuse to anticipate shortages, who buy a single box of ammo at a time and expect everything to be there on the shelves when they need or want it again - they are simply refusing to accept reality or to prepare for less than optimal situations and that is worse than foolsih. Shortages of necessities and niceties have been repeated in history over an over again. So, having been taught the lesson since my pre-teen years and having learned it first hand over and over again, I buy what I need, anticipate I may need or what want whenever I can get it.

    Hopefully I will have enough for onslaughts by demons, zombies, dragons, criminals, tyrants, leftists and anti-American revolutionaries should they rear their ugly heads just as has been the case as of late. I anticipate that will only get much worse before it gets better. If there is no need for my ammo in an emergency, then I'll likely have enough to last me for the remainder of my shooting lifetime and still have some leftover to bequeath to my son on my passing. I must say, the absolutely socialist ideals expressed by some in these forums - about how much I or anyone can have, should have, or are acceptable to you for others to have - are mind boggling considering how most folks in these forums claim to be conservative and supportive of the free market system, liberty and the individual's rights. Some of you sound just like Hillary Clinton when she faulted those who nhave wealth and called for sharing everyone's wealth with those who essentially refused to work to make their own to the best of their abilities.
     

    Hoji

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    Some of you guys seem to fault hoarders, then say they sold ammo to profit during the shortage. How is it they are hoarding if selling it as soon as they get it?

    Then again, as for actual hoarding or prepping - what is wrong with acquiring enough ammo to hold you over through the Zombie Apocalypse or buying just as much as you want and are capable of buying for whatever reason?

    I mean, if you (generic you - not anyone in particular) are one of those guys who buys a box or two of 30-30 (or any caliber) a year, at most, because all you use it for is hunting or shooting now and then - then I think you are a fool if you lived through the last few ammo shortages before this one. Why? Because you evidently learned nothing. I have a substantial number of rounds of ammo on hand. I bought them with my legitimately and hard earned money. I learned my lesson after the first ammo buying frenzy but to tell the truth I already had thousands of rounds in store before it. I lived through the Cold War and learned it's lessons well, I think. No bombs were ever dropped on us, my family did not need to use all the small store of food & supplies we were able to build up (we were dirt poor - no pot to piss in, no window to throw it out of and no ground to catch it) because of a war with Russia or China. What we had, we had for such anticipated emergencies - which never materialized thank goodness. Yet, there were plenty of lessor emergencies over the years. So, when we needed what we had built up in stock and kept building up as we went along- or as you guys would say that we had hoarded - we were prepared and made out fairly well.

    Today, for me, it is the same with food & supplies as with ammo. I keep stocking up regardless of current prices and rotate out what is old with new stuff. As for the unprepared, who refuse to anticipate shortages, who buy a single box of ammo at a time and expect everything to be there on the shelves when they need or want it again - they are simply refusing to accept reality or to prepare for less than optimal situations and that is worse than foolsih. Shortages of necessities and niceties have been repeated in history over an over again. So, having been taught the lesson since my pre-teen years and having learned it first hand over and over again, I buy what I need, anticipate I may need or what want whenever I can get it.

    Hopefully I will have enough for onslaughts by demons, zombies, dragons, criminals, tyrants, leftists and anti-American revolutionaries should they rear their ugly heads just as has been the case as of late. I anticipate that will only get much worse before it gets better. If there is no need for my ammo in an emergency, then I'll likely have enough to last me for the remainder of my shooting lifetime and still have some leftover to bequeath to my son on my passing. I must say, the absolutely socialist ideals expressed by some in these forums - about how much I or anyone can have, should have, or are acceptable to you for others to have - are mind boggling considering how most folks in these forums claim to be conservative and supportive of the free market system, liberty and the individual's rights. Some of you sound just like Hillary Clinton when she faulted those who nhave wealth and called for sharing everyone's wealth with those who essentially refused to work to make their own to the best of their abilities.
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    thescoutranch

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    Once I finally did a detailed inventory, it brought to light some of my shortcomings of what I forgot to buy over the years.
    Plenty of pistol powder, but very little rifle Powder, doh!
    An excess of small rifle primers but was way short on large rifle primers.
    Yet another great feature of TGT, the ability to trade with others for things that you forgot to stock up on, with things that they forgot to stock pile.

    I now have a shopping list for when availability and prices come down.
     
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