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Alright! SB 299 passed the house & senate. We are getting "imprinting" in Texas!!!!

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  • Mexican_Hippie

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    Not to be negative, but printing isn't an offense right now.

    Its kind of like getting excited about hitting a single, with two outs, when you're down 10-0 in the bottom of the 9th. IMO, this legislative session has been a complete failure for gun rights.
     

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    Um I respectfully disagree sir, imprinting is an offense at the moment. Your concealed weapon MUST be 100% invisible right now. With the passage of SB299, it will no longer be an offense to imprint. It is a step in the right direction at least. - For Liberty.
     

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    As I understand it, printing not illegal, neither is the UN- intentional display of a concealed handgun. I believe this is the bill that gives the CHL more room to accidently display a concealed handgun without any issues from LEO.
     

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    Um I respectfully disagree sir, imprinting is an offense at the moment. Your concealed weapon MUST be 100% invisible right now. With the passage of SB299, it will no longer be an offense to imprint. It is a step in the right direction at least. - For Liberty.

    Ohh he is going to be hammered on this one.
     

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    Alright! SB 299 passed the house & senate. We are getting "imprinting" in Texas

    Um I respectfully disagree sir, imprinting is an offense at the moment. Your concealed weapon MUST be 100% invisible right now. With the passage of SB299, it will no longer be an offense to imprint. It is a step in the right direction at least. - For Liberty.

    Um, no it's not.
     

    schang

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    Lol, maybe I'm a day late and a dollar short... when the heck did imprinting become legal? And what's the point of SB 299 then?

    SB299
    A license holder commits an offense if the license
    holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
    under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
    and intentionally displays [fails to conceal] the handgun in plain
    view of another person in a public place.
     

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    Alright! SB 299 passed the house & senate. We are getting "imprinting" in Texas

    Lol, maybe I'm a day late and a dollar short... when the heck did imprinting become legal? And what's the point of SB 299 then?

    SB299
    A license holder commits an offense if the license
    holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
    under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
    and intentionally displays [fails to conceal] the handgun in plain
    view of another person in a public place.

    Printing is not illegal. Intentional failure to conceal is. They are not the same thing.
     

    schang

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    Ahhh ok, but won't SB299 give us a little more protection? Will I be able to just cover up the gun with a tshirt?

    Sorry to you all, I wasn't trying to start any trouble... I just got all excited when I read that it passed the House.
     

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    Printing was never illegal. This bill is meaningless.... Freedom loses again this session. Replacing "fails to conceal" which meant that the actual gun could be seen, not an imprint of the gun and "displays" are basically synonymous... LAME

    We have to get rid of Joe Strauss if we ever want actual gun rights in Texas to move forward.
     

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    I agree sir, again I'm sorry for getting excited about nothing then. I didn't mean to steer anyone in the wrong direction. I'm the clueless idiot lol.
     

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    Alright! SB 299 passed the house & senate. We are getting "imprinting" in Texas

    Ahhh ok, but won't SB299 give us a little more protection? Will I be able to just cover up the gun with a tshirt?

    Sorry to you all, I wasn't trying to start any trouble... I just got all excited when I read that it passed the House.

    You could already do that. It would not have been illegal if the wind caught your shirt and blew it up allowing someone to see your gun, or if you bent down for something and your shirt got hung on the grip. Neither of those are intentional.

    It's a minor re wording that might save a few some trouble with the few cops who don't like CC. Not gonna make a noticeable impact for 99% of us.

    Also adds that it can be displayed in lawful use of force an not just deadly force. Don't know of anyone ever being arrested for failing to conceal drawing a weapon on a BG and not firing.

    It's not a bad change, but many of the other laws would have been a much bigger step in the right direction. This was more like glancing in the right direction with no real movement.
     

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    You could already do that. It would not have been illegal if the wind caught your shirt and blew it up allowing someone to see your gun, or if you bent down for something and your shirt got hung on the grip. Neither of those are intentional.

    It's a minor re wording that might save a few some trouble with the few cops who don't like CC. Not gonna make a noticeable impact for 99% of us.

    Also adds that it can be displayed in lawful use of force an not just deadly force. Don't know of anyone ever being arrested for failing to conceal drawing a weapon on a BG and not firing.

    It's not a bad change, but many of the other laws would have been a much bigger step in the right direction. This was more like glancing in the right direction with no real movement.

    Thanks for that, I was like the OP in thinking printing could get you into trouble. Good info!
     

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    Alright! SB 299 passed the house & senate. We are getting "imprinting" in Texas

    My CHL class implied that it was illegal to imprint so that was my understanding as well. Maybe they were talking about how subjective the term "intentional failure to conceal" could be. It could at least make for annoying day in court whether someone intentionally failed to conceal by wearing the wrong style of clothes or something.
     

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    but can I wear a OWB holster, with a glock 17 and just throw a T-shirt on. Obviously the gun will print... is that legal currently? will SB 299 affect that? please educated me.
     

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    My CHL class implied that it was illegal to imprint so that was my understanding as well. Maybe they were talking about how subjective the term "intentional failure to conceal" could be. It could at least make for annoying day in court whether someone intentionally failed to conceal by wearing the wrong style of clothes or something.

    exactly, thats what I thought and have been taught by my CHL instructor for over 10 years.
     

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    Alright! SB 299 passed the house & senate. We are getting "imprinting" in Texas

    Intentionally failing to conceal and intentional display are the same thing.

    Wearing spandex over your glock would make an obvious contour of the gun but it is not actually visible. Think the level of trouble you run in to would very from nothing to pain in the ass depending on the cop you ran in to.

    Some of the LEO could give a better idea on that matter because you are basically intentionally printing.

    I wear a regular t shirt and carry IWB cause its comfortable. Never had a need to take it to that level but still print when the wind hits right and have had my shirt get hung on the grip while digging on the bottom shelf at the store.

    Came close to carrying my 1911 on the weekends which would have printed Alot. Chose not to due to the sights and not being used to the gun, not good if I needed it. Getting in legal trouble did not cross my mind.

    IANAL. Most of what any of us are telling you are opinions. Nature of the Internet.
     
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