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  • majormadmax

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    Wasn't this guy, was it?

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    Or this one?

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    Or this one?

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    (I think this last guy was just screwing around)

    Some guys don't even try to get it right, they just buy every badge they can get their hands on from eBay and toss them anywhere!

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    There is no shortage of dumbasses who will try this idiotic stunt.

    Of course, you have to be careful confronting them as sometimes the rules change! For example...

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    Captain Kamal Kalsi is one of three individuals who are allowed to keep his beard and turban while in US Army!

    Cheers! M2
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    London

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    I pretty much agree with London's assessment except for the part about demanding an ID. Asking, sure. But demanding is pointless since none of us have any authority to do so.

    Probably fake and looking for a discount on a refrigerator or some other high end item.

    No, no authority but that of a righteously indignant man. Well, that and, at least for me, when another military member demanded to see your ID it was almost an unwritten law that you had to show it to them. It means they were trying to figure out who you were so they could have a chat with your supervisor later. Not showing it to them only makes things a lot worse.
     
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    London

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    Wasn't this guy, was it?

    1323180808.jpg


    Or this one?

    SGM-Slick.jpg


    Or this one?

    ZRr4V.jpg

    (I think this last guy was just screwing around)

    Some guys don't even try to get it right, they just buy every badge they can get their hands on from eBay and toss them anywhere!

    IMG_5688.jpg


    There is no shortage of dumbasses who will try this idiotic stunt.

    Of course, you have to be careful confronting them as sometimes the rules change! For example...

    militarypic.jpg


    Captain Kamal Kalsi is one of three individuals who are allowed to keep his beard and turban while in US Army!

    Cheers! M2

    Holy shit. I finally appreciate the absurdly obsessive compulsive military standards for uniforms. Makes spotting fakes soooooo easy!

    "A POS." Yeah, that's about right.
     

    London

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    Windbreakers and sweaters have rank insignia on them, but no nametags or other accoutrements. Ties are not required either unless in the Air Force District of Washington during certain times of the year.
    Cheers! M2

    I don't know about the current standards, but when I was in ties were optional for short sleeves; mandatory for long sleeves.
     

    majormadmax

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    I don't know about the current standards, but when I was in ties were optional for short sleeves; mandatory for long sleeves.

    While either short or long sleeves can be work with the USAF Service Dress (pictured), a tie is mandatory no matter what shirt is worn.

    It is also mandatory for long-sleeve shirts, and short sleeved ones in certain areas (the aforementioned AFDW during the summer).

    As for confronting someone, I am unlikely to do so unless I know they are actually a military member and their actions are illegal under the UCMJ. Even then, I wouldn't have much legal authority outside of intervening and reporting it to the person's chain-of command. As far as I know, I still hold my Regular commission as I have never resigned it.
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    While either short or long sleeves can be work with the USAF Service Dress (pictured), a tie is mandatory no matter what shirt is worn.

    It is also mandatory for long-sleeve shirts, and short sleeved ones in certain areas (the aforementioned AFDW during the summer).

    As for confronting someone, I am unlikely to do so unless I know they are actually a military member and their actions are illegal under the UCMJ. Even then, I wouldn't have much legal authority outside of intervening and reporting it to the person's chain-of command. As far as I know, I still hold my Regular commission as I have never resigned it.
    100% yes, you have to resign it unless you are stripped of it due to UCMJ action. Then technically you are not retired in essence you remain on the rolls for the rest of your life as I understand, you do not count against end strength and you are paid a reduced amount for reduced duty. At one time you could apply to be promoted, it was called a "tombstone promotion". I forgot what the basic requirements are, seems like ???? it was something like your age + number of years AD if it added to over 80 or something like that???? You gained nothing other than the rank, no increase in pay. I remember my dad applied but he died before it was actioned by HQDAF...
     

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    That store is 5 minutes from my house, guess I'll keep an eye out.


    "Prepare yourself for the future,with what you've seen in the present"
     

    majormadmax

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    100% yes, you have to resign it unless you are stripped of it due to UCMJ action. Then technically you are not retired in essence you remain on the rolls for the rest of your life as I understand, you do not count against end strength and you are paid a reduced amount for reduced duty. At one time you could apply to be promoted, it was called a "tombstone promotion". I forgot what the basic requirements are, seems like ???? it was something like your age + number of years AD if it added to over 80 or something like that???? You gained nothing other than the rank, no increase in pay. I remember my dad applied but he died before it was actioned by HQDAF...

    Agreed, but policy established under DOD Directive 1352.1 - Management and Mobilization of Regular and Reserve Retired Military Members, make recall to active duty unlikely for those who have been retired for more than five years, or those over age 60.

    As for "tombstone promotions," at one point they were somewhat common in the Navy, which routinely advanced officers one grade on retirement; but not so in the USAF or (I believe) the Army. Basically, they were primarily honorary and allowed the retirees to use the titles of the new grade; but they had no effect on pay or benefits. They were known as "tombstone promotions" because the higher grades would be more impressive on the members' grave markers! :D

    The closest the Air Force comes to such a practice is its advancement of officers who are selected for promotion but die before they can pin on (i.e. posthumously). It as also limited up to the rank of colonel (full bird).
     

    TXDARKHORSE361

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    I'm am very happy I haven't run across one of these guys in person. Closest I came I almost lifed out a "Marine" for wearing his cammies in public but was trying to go about it tactfully, finally saw his MCJROTC patch and immediately calmed down. Not something you can turn off easily.
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    Agreed, but policy established under DOD Directive 1352.1 - Management and Mobilization of Regular and Reserve Retired Military Members, make recall to active duty unlikely for those who have been retired for more than five years, or those over age 60.

    As for "tombstone promotions," at one point they were somewhat common in the Navy, which routinely advanced officers one grade on retirement; but not so in the USAF or (I believe) the Army. Basically, they were primarily honorary and allowed the retirees to use the titles of the new grade; but they had no effect on pay or benefits. They were known as "tombstone promotions" because the higher grades would be more impressive on the members' grave markers! :D

    The closest the Air Force comes to such a practice is its advancement of officers who are selected for promotion but die before they can pin on (i.e. posthumously). It as also limited up to the rank of colonel (full bird).
    They sent me a letter asking me to apply...I sat on it, wife did not want me to do it, anyhow, ended up finally getting it in, but by the time I did I had gone past the 60 mark and they wrote back telling me I was to old at that point and I had to be able to stay on AD for 24 mo prior to my 62nd. I had a LOT of mixed feelings on it and to this day I still do. The war in the ME is a MESS and not likely to ever change...
     

    ROGER4314

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    What makes people want to lie about something like that... a way to boost low self-esteem?

    It's a good question. I think a lot of it happens because they want the recognition but don't have the guts to actually earn the accomplishment. Then, too, people lie out of fear of being seen for what they really are. If you're comfortable with who/what you are, there's no need to lie.

    I had a friend who was severely overweight and went on a diet. He looked great but at a certain point, he panicked and gained all of the weight back. I figured him out, though. If someone didn't like him, he could rationalize that it was because he was heavy. Without the weight, he had to face that they weren't his friends because because they didn't like him as a person. His weight was his protective wrap!

    The best plan is to base your self esteem on things other than the opinions of others.

    Some of our members doubt my recollections and/or experiences. That doesn't matter because I have no desire to make people like me.....but it's really ironic. Anyone who knows me would say that my honesty is rigorous and pretty damned annoying. They know not to ask me things unless they can stand a straight and unfiltered response! I have no fear and don't give a rats asx if they like me or not.

    (Bonnie is here and I read this post to her. She replied "Yup.....That's you! If I don't want to hear the whole truth, I know better than to ask you!")

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    Ole Cowboy

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    It's a good question. I think a lot of it happens because they want the recognition but don't have the guts to actually earn the accomplishment. Then, too, people lie out of fear of being seen for what they really are. If you're comfortable with who/what you are, there's no need to lie.

    I had a friend who was severely overweight and went on a diet. He looked great but at a certain point, he panicked and gained all of the weight back. I figured him out, though. If someone didn't like him, he could rationalize that it was because he was heavy. Without the weight, he had to face that they weren't his friends because because they didn't like him as a person. His weight was his protective wrap!

    The best plan is to base your self esteem on things other than the opinions of others.

    Some of our members doubt my recollections and/or experiences. That doesn't matter because I have no desire to make people like me.....but it's really ironic. Anyone who knows me would say that my honesty is rigorous and pretty damned annoying. They know not to ask me things unless they can stand a straight and unfiltered response! I have no fear and don't give a rats asx if they like me or not.

    (Bonnie is here and I read this post to her. She replied "Yup.....That's you! If I don't want to hear the whole truth, I know better than to ask you!")

    Flash

    My Bn Co wrote in my OER: "if you do not want an honest answer, do not ask this officer"
     

    ROGER4314

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    My Bn Co wrote in my OER: "if you do not want an honest answer, do not ask this officer"

    That MUST be a smiley memory and it sure made me grin! It points out what most of us know about you. Your words do not come from a foundation or position of fear.

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    V-Tach

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    This story saddens me......

    Regardless, the guy was a douche....

    Although I served well over 3 decades ago, of the current crop of young Veterans I am privileged enough to know.... I am extremely proud to call friend and Brother...
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    My Bn Co wrote in my OER: "if you do not want an honest answer, do not ask this officer"

    That MUST be a smiley memory and it sure made me grin! It points out what most of us know about you. Your words do not come from a foundation or position of fear.

    Flash
    LOL, yea, we sit in those command & staff meetings and at times a touchy subject would come up and the Co was not getting the straight answers he wanted, he would announce, "let's ask our honest Capt what he thinks" Of course then I had to really think to give a honest and straight while not stepping on toes of other officers. What I would do was try to make my answer humorous.
     

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    I once saw an Army Sergeant at the passenger terminal at Dover Air Force base in the standard Class-A uniform. He looked squared away until I noticed he wore low-quarters shoes and an Airborne maroon beret without the normal flash and insignia (the head gear actually looked more like the one worn by the Pillsbury Dough Boy).

    Asked him to identify himself and the unit he was assigned to. Told me he was an Airborne Rigger in COSCOM. Asked him where his jump wings and bloused jump boots were. He took the beret off his head, handed it to me, and said "please don't tell my First Sergeant, he's Airborne."

    I sent his First Sergeant the beret and a sworn statement. The First Sergeant called me to say that was all the unit needed to process the fellow for administrative separation. Seems he had tried to impersonate a Second Lieutenant at a whorehouse on Hay Street in Fayetteville for special favors, where he had worn both the gold bars on his shoulders and the gold stripes on his sleeves when the "Courtesy Patrol" nabbed him.

    Turns out he was a mentally disturbed supply specialist, not an Airborne Rigger.

    And Major (Psychiatrist) Nidal Hassan was just an ordinary peaceful member of the Fort Hood community until he went nuts, when there were all kinds of signs to show he was not normal.

    Beware of posers!
     
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