9mm with 16inch barrel length legalities.

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I get what you’re saying now


But it would be legal if i was to build an AR15 with a 16inch 9mm barrel with a real stock? which literally is a rifle right?

This is just a rifle with a 16” barrel. No braced needed, no concerns about pistols being reclassified as short barreled rifles.
 

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16" bbl is min. for rifle
 

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Sounds like you are looking for a problem that isn't there. Rifles have 16" or longer barrels. Pistols have less. And as stated above, caliber has nothing to do with it.
OOOH I get it now!. also would these be legal?
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First, what is a 4" 9mm 6"? I don't see anything "illegal" about them. If they haven't been assembled for anything (as a rifle), it "appears" they can be used to make a pistol.

By the way, any advice given on a forum is worth just what it costs!
Check with your local ATF folks!
 
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OOOH I get it now!. also would these be legal? View attachment 290217

Let’s back up a bit. As far as I know the whole factoring criteria is still just a proposal.


Second, the basic criteria for rifle vs pistol is more than just barrel length. There’s overall length as well as vertical foregrip presence that defines pistol va rifle.

To be a pistol, a firearm must have a barrel less than 16”, have an overall length leas than 26”, and not have a vertical foregrip.

It would be worth your time to learn from what parts of the firearm ATF conducts their measurements.
 

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Handguns do not have BBL lengths. Their primary criteria is short stock and designed to be fired with a single hand:

(29)The term “handgun” means—
(A) a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand; and
(B)any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraph (A) can be assembled.


Rifles also do not have barrel lengths. Their primary criteria is fired from shoulder:

(7) The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

And now we come to NFA. They do have a BBL length specification:

(8) The term “short-barreled rifle” means a rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.


So "single hand" is why a handgun cannot have a Vertical Grip. Then it is designed for two hands.
 

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Let’s back up a bit. As far as I know the whole factoring criteria is still just a proposal.


Second, the basic criteria for rifle vs pistol is more than just barrel length. There’s overall length as well as vertical foregrip presence that defines pistol va rifle.

To be a pistol, a firearm must have a barrel less than 16”, have an overall length leas than 26”, and not have a vertical foregrip.

It would be worth your time to learn from what parts of the firearm ATF conducts their measurements.
I have but I need opinions of citizens whos probably own one.
 
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