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  • seeker_two

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    For an understanding of my question, please read the linked article....


    I'm deciding between two micro .22lr pistols for this need.

    Ruger LCPII: Small, 10rd capacity, quick to shoot.

    NAA Mini Revolver: Smaller, 5rd, slow to shoot but quicker to go to next round in case of dud, also has .22 Magnum cylinder.

    Which one is a better choice for my purpose?

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    gambler

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    Article far too long so I didn't read much of it. So, I can't offer an opinion. Sorry
     

    Rhino

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    For an understanding of my question, please read the linked article....


    I'm deciding between two micro .22lr pistols for this need.

    Ruger LCPII: Small, 10rd capacity, quick to shoot.

    NAA Mini Revolver: Smaller, 5rd, slow to shoot but quicker to go to next round in case of dud, also has .22 Magnum cylinder.

    Which one is a better choice for my purpose?

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    Put them in your hand... I used to have a NAA and I've still got the Kel Tec P3AT and I'm guessing the ergonomics of the LCPII are probably superior.
     

    Younggun

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    I skimmed the article, picking out paragraphs here and there, and stopped somewhere along the way.

    My opinion is whoever wrote it is a nut. The scenarios presents are pretty silly. And he’s starting all of this from “my spook CIA buddy had a little pistol”.


    So from that point of view my opinion is get a little bitty .22 if you want one, but don’t expect it to be some super secret squirrel wonder weapon that’s gonna cause traffic jams as you shoot out tires to make your high speed escape.

    The author of that article has watched too many bad action movies.


    IMHO.


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    Axxe55

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    I have to agree with @Younggun on the article.

    Granted, some of what he did say about 22's is correct, but still...well if you read the article, you get the idea.

    Biggest pitfall of 22LR as a primary defensive weapon, has always been the shortfalls of the ammo itself, and not necessarily the guns themselves at fault.

    Unless relegated to certain circumstances, I'd never choose a 22LR as primary weapon for self defense. Back-up, yes if I felt it was needed.
     

    benenglish

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    I'd go for the Ruger simply because in my fat hands the NAA is pretty difficult to manage.

    Of course, if you want more capacity than the NAA but quick transition to a new round in case of a dud, there are revolvers. A S&W 317 sits on my desk all day, every day. The little Ruger revolvers are nice, I suppose, but I have no experience with them and I prefer the S&W since it takes the DeSantis Clip Grip.
     

    Fishkiller

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    I agree with Ben. I have a NAA that I use for finishing off deer if need be. Other than that I find that it is too small for a defensive purpose.
     

    gambler

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    I skimmed the article, picking out paragraphs here and there, and stopped somewhere along the way.

    My opinion is whoever wrote it is a nut. The scenarios presents are pretty silly. And he’s starting all of this from “my spook CIA buddy had a little pistol”.


    So from that point of view my opinion is get a little bitty .22 if you want one, but don’t expect it to be some super secret squirrel wonder weapon that’s gonna cause traffic jams as you shoot out tires to make your high speed escape.

    The author of that article has watched too many bad action movies.


    IMHO.


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    I think that pretty much says it all ! hahaha
     

    gambler

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    If I am going to carry a .22 for any defensive purpose, it will be a Beretta with a tip up barrel, or a double action revolver with HEAVY favoritism toward the DA revolver.
    Well now you DO sound like a real doomer !
     

    Sam7sf

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    I tried loading that article. This is what popped up.
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    Moonpie

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    Gunz are icky.
    As the owner of both of these, the Ruger LCP II all the way.
    Its actually a shootable handgun.

    The NAA, while viable, is really really a Get the Fluck off Me gun.
    Just making a center of mass hits across a table requires lots of practice.
    And it's only worth a crap when shooting 22 WMR. Long Rifle accuracy out of them is the pits.
    Massive inaccuracy, keyholing, etc. It is because the barrel is made for .223 bullets of the 22 WMR and not the .222 bore of Long Rifle.
    Not to mention they're slower than Seeker Two paying for lunch to reload. Think 30-40 seconds to reload.
    The LCP II is a dandy pocket gun.
    Mags are easily available.
    My one gripe on the LCP II are the sights. They suck.
    There is a place that will re-do the sights for you but its expensive. SIGHT UPGRADE - Innovative Arms Silencers
     

    TX OMFS

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    As the owner of both of these, the Ruger LCP II all the way.
    Its actually a shootable handgun.

    The NAA, while viable, is really really a Get the Fluck off Me gun.
    Just making a center of mass hits across a table requires lots of practice.
    And it's only worth a crap when shooting 22 WMR. Long Rifle accuracy out of them is the pits.
    Massive inaccuracy, keyholing, etc. It is because the barrel is made for .223 bullets of the 22 WMR and not the .222 bore of Long Rifle.
    Not to mention they're slower than Seeker Two paying for lunch to reload. Think 30-40 seconds to reload.
    The LCP II is a dandy pocket gun.
    Mags are easily available.
    My one gripe on the LCP II are the sights. They suck.
    There is a place that will re-do the sights for you but its expensive. SIGHT UPGRADE - Innovative Arms Silencers
    Is bbl a problem with any gun that shoot .22LR or WMR? I haven't shot my dad's Single Six since I was a boy but I don't remember it having accuracy problems. It has a 6" bbl or so. The the extra .001 may not matter through a longer bbl.
     

    Moonpie

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    Yes to TXOMF.
    Shooting 22lr down a . 22mag barrel results in poor accuracy. The bore is oversized for the LR.
    At close distances it isn’t too bad but out further than 25ft really becomes iffy.
     
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