1911 extractors differences

[rp-]

I picked up an AMT hardballer but it has the wrong extractor installed. Its blued instead of stainless. Im guessing dude that sold it had it break and bought one but it didnt work so he offloaded it.

I know there's a couple different extractor available. The installed extractor is about 1/16th inch too long sonit doesn't grip the case at all. I found a site selling model 70 and model 80 extractors. What's the difference between the 2? Is one shorter?



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[CharlieWH2O]

Only difference in those two extractors is the cut in the 80 series for the firing pin block. Pics may help some.

 

[Texasgordo]

Pics?

 

[rp-]

This is the extractor and you can see the gap between it and the case rim in the second picture. The extractor is unmarked.

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[Lonesome Dove]

That can be fixed with welding and a file.

 

[rp-]

That can be fixed with welding and a file.

I don't have a welder and don't know anything about tempering or heat treating extractors unfortunately.

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[CharlieWH2O]

Extractors are fairly inexpensive. Google “Tune 1911 extractor”. That will give you lots of info to tune that extractor no cutting or welding required. Once you get it to work purchase a quality SS extractor, tune it and enjoy. It’s not that tough. You know a little because you did remove it from the slide.

 

[rp-]

Extractors are fairly inexpensive. Google “Tune 1911 extractor”. That will give you lots of info to tune that extractor no cutting or welding required. Once you get it to work purchase a quality SS extractor, tune it and enjoy. It’s not that tough. You know a little because you did remove it from the slide.

How do I get rid of the gap between the rim and extractor though. I had to tune my last hardballer so I remember the stuff to do but this thing isn't even close to touching the case yet.

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[Lonesome Dove]

I don't have a welder and don't know anything about tempering or heat treating extractors unfortunately.

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A good Smith or Machinist who knows firearms can do it.
He will need both the gun and the extracter and a round or a spent case. Several rounds would be best.

 

[billtool]

Pic of the gun?

 

[CharlieWH2O]

How do I get rid of the gap between the rim and extractor though. I had to tune my last hardballer so I remember the stuff to do but this thing isn't even close to touching the case yet.

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Go strraight to a new quality extractor. Who knows where that one came from or what may have happened to it. Hardballer should accept most 1911 parts.

EXTRACTOR, 70 SERIES, 1911, .45 ACP, BULLET PROOF, STAINLESS

The Wilson Combat stainless bulletproof extractor for the .45 ACP 1911 is the highest quality extractor available on the market today. Built with superior materials, this part has been designed to provide you with maximum reliability and performance.

wilsoncombat.com

I’ve not had experience with the SS version but blued are the bomb. Wilson basically tempers them bent.

 

[rp-]

Pic of the gun?

The slide is taken apart right now. Any particular part you wanna see?

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[billtool]

I just think those Hardballer AMT's are cool. 6" slide - correct?

 

[rp-]

I just think those Hardballer AMT's are cool. 6" slide - correct?

I wish... This one is not the long slide version.

Go strraight to a new quality extractor. Who knows where that one came from or what may have happened to it. Hardballer should accept most 1911 parts.

EXTRACTOR, 70 SERIES, 1911, .45 ACP, BULLET PROOF, STAINLESS

The Wilson Combat stainless bulletproof extractor for the .45 ACP 1911 is the highest quality extractor available on the market today. Built with superior materials, this part has been designed to provide you with maximum reliability and performance.

wilsoncombat.com

I’ve not had experience with the SS version but blued are the bomb. Wilson basically tempers them bent.

This was my thought. Not only is it not the right size, it's also blued on a stainless pistol. We can't have that! Wilson was the page I was looking at though but they list the series 70 and series 80. I'll do more research on the 2 and see which one the hardballer takes after.

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[CharlieWH2O]

How about a pic of the underside of the slide and we can tell you really quick

 

[rp-]

How about a pic of the underside of the slide and we can tell you really quick

This good?

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[CharlieWH2O]

70 series. 80 would look like this:

 

[rp-]

70 series. 80 would look like this:

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Thanks!

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[Nicholst55]

The reason that you have that gap is because your extractor needs to be fitted. You can buy any quality Series 70 stainless steel extractor and fit it to your pistol. I recommend this one. If you don't feel comfortable fitting one, find a decent gunsmith who has experience with the 1911. Here is an entire thread that covers the topic:

1911 Extractor Fitting

 

[Txhighlander]

EGW makes excellent parts