“VIGILANTISM”, anyone ?

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  • Sam7sf

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    There is a difference between justice and vengeance.

    There is a difference between some, even if rough hewn and course, justice and the usurpation of law in the form of vigilantism.

    I wish citizens would use the authority they HAVE under the law to take immediate action , including deadly force, against criminals in the act.

    I think there are a more crimes that should be capitol offenses and that the prosecution should be required to seek the death penalty in the vast majority of those cases. I am in favor of corporal punishments for many other crimes, not for the joy of causing another pain, but allowing small crimes to corrected without having to stay in jail so the offender can return to his family and job I think would be in the interests of both society and justice.

    Vigilantism is rebellion against law disguised as justice. It is a terrible and horrible thing and devolves into lynch mobs and men killing each over perceived slights. It is not something to wish for.

    Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord... There is no perfect justice here on earth. Until we are before the great white throne, there will be no perfect justice and that justice will be aweful and terrifying. Don't take authority that has not been given to you.

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    Oh hush. Mr logical. As always from you plenty of insight. A lot of my post context is missing though. I’m just here for the ride and enjoying the shit show.
    When we stop taking care of our house it will begin to crumble...

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    There is a difference between justice and vengeance.

    There is a difference between some, even if rough hewn and course, justice and the usurpation of law in the form of vigilantism.

    I wish citizens would use the authority they HAVE under the law to take immediate action , including deadly force, against criminals in the act.

    I think there are a more crimes that should be capitol offenses and that the prosecution should be required to seek the death penalty in the vast majority of those cases. I am in favor of corporal punishments for many other crimes, not for the joy of causing another pain, but allowing small crimes to corrected without having to stay in jail so the offender can return to his family and job I think would be in the interests of both society and justice.

    Vigilantism is rebellion against law disguised as justice. It is a terrible and horrible thing and devolves into lynch mobs and men killing each over perceived slights. It is not something to wish for.

    Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord... There is no perfect justice here on earth. Until we are before the great white throne, there will be no perfect justice and that justice will be aweful and terrifying. Don't take authority that has not been given to you.

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    Vigilantism often is the only ‘’justice’’ available. The only protection for one’s Family.

    My late Dad, b.1914, told of a 1920’s incident in our hometown. Some 10 or 12 Klansmen, wearing sheets & on horseback, rode into our neighborhood.

    They were met by about 25 shotgun-toting locals, who gave a simple edict: ‘’Leave immediately or die. If we ever see you again, we are going to shoot you on sight !’’

    They were never seen again. It worked !

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    Sam7sf

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    Its meaning is defined by the individual. Everything we do is an individual choice. When we are weak or seek attention or approval we run in packs and gang up on others.

    Cylceguys points have merit. With certain context so did my post. I don’t care to share publicly. It’s a lot to type and it solves nothing by sharing.

    i respect the rule of law. However, the rule of law is operated by man. Very few people seek enlightenment but are eager to gain authority, power, and money. Religious or none religious background seems irrelevant with our nature.

    For a sane person to seek vengeance, I would ask what or who failed him or her.
     

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    I'll take door #3, Monty.

    The trouble with committees - and I'd guess moreso with ones of this purpose - is some one, or some group, always rises to the top; with varying degrees of success taking control - and none of it pretty.

    Corrupt nat'l govt - far away
    Corrupt state govt - closer
    Corrupt local govt - even closer
    Corrupt local committee - actually the most dangerous, imo, because you're within their immediate range...and therefore subject to their decisions.

    It's one thing to be part of a group for self-defensive purposes - it's quite another to band together to mete out committee-decided justice. I'll pass.
    Not what I said. I would never support a "vigilance committee" either. Way too many possibilities for corruption and too little oversight.
    But if need be, I have no problem handing out justice as needed. Of course that comes with the knowledge that others may see that as me needing to be handed some "justice" as well.
    Each must choose according to each situation and their own concience knowing that some will see even actions taken in self defence as an action needing "justice". Look at the number of people we have read about that obviously acted in self defense, yet there are those that call for them to be prosecuted for doing so. Even LE are quite often vilified for defending themselves.


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    leVieux

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    Its meaning is defined by the individual. Everything we do is an individual choice. When we are weak or seek attention or approval we run in packs and gang up on others.

    Cylceguys points have merit. With certain context so did my post. I don’t care to share publicly. It’s a lot to type and it solves nothing by sharing.

    i respect the rule of law. However, the rule of law is operated by man. Very few people seek enlightenment but are eager to gain authority, power, and money. Religious or none religious background seems irrelevant with our nature.

    For a sane person to seek vengeance, I would ask what or who failed him or her.
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    The idea is PROTECTION, not ‘’vengeance’’.
     

    Sam7sf

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    The idea is PROTECTION, not ‘’vengeance’’.
    To correct ourselves by claiming protection is vigilantism; we are just fooling ourselves.

    If someone resorted to vigilantism I don’t think they are too concerned with the rule of law. Protection is a self righteous word or a word that’s more used for a limited role granted to someone.

    I just don’t think society understands it’s role if it failed people and created a vigilante.
     

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    Our current lying leftist media seem to equate “vigilantism” with some dark evil excess or perversion.

    BUT,

    Vigilantism is every bit as American as baseball & apple pie.

    That is how our Frontier Ancestors kept the Peace and protected their Families !

    Just like “Militia”, another American Icon.

    Neither was invented here, but both flourished inside our “frontier spirit” of neighbors helping neighbors, patriotism, and (gasp) American Nationalism.

    Be proud to be an American, your race is NOT an issue.

    Reject revisionism, “White Guilt’, antiSemitism, and antiChristianity. Buy ammo, read your Bible, teach your children. . . . Yes, be prepared to serve your community and your neighbors; as a Vigilante, MilItiaman, or whatever our Country needs you to be. Do your job, whatever than may be.

    Support your local Sheriff. Obey your conscience and our GOD, not the illicit regime in power.

    There won’t be another chance if we fail !

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