Who here uses special methods of take for deer and other big game?

d_holliday · Aug 7, 2020

Please tell us why you prefer these special methods. For example, does a handgun for deer offer a very special challenge to stalk the animal very close?

I myself prefer the NORM for methods of taking deer (where legal).

Here is my understanding of deer/big-game weapons for hunting in America as a guy age 50+.

The norm for SPORT deer hunting weapons and fodder in America:

1. CF rifle, .243 Win. or more potent

2. bottleneck cartridges w/ lead-based bullets

Special things for SPORT deer hunting, sometimes mandated by local jurisdictions and certain game seasons as follows:

1. straight-walled-cartridge CF rifles

2. shotguns

3. handguns

4. black-powder cartridge rifles

5. muzzleloaders

6. long bows

7. crossbows

8. rimfire rifles, might be unlawful to use for deer in most jurisdictions (my grandfather and father both commented that guys who shoot .22's at deer are idiots)

9. non-lead bullets where law requires

Now, in emergency wilderness situations, I can see using any available weapon to take meat for survival.

Axxe55 · Aug 7, 2020

Where are you getting your information?

candcallen · Aug 8, 2020

Maybe hes running a content management company or hired to create content for web sites. He just got lost and ended up here?

Just thinking out loud...spitballing.

Axxe55 · Aug 8, 2020

candcallen said:
Maybe hes running a content management company or hired to create content for web sites. He just got lost and ended up here?

Just thinking out loud...spitballing.

It's something, I just don't know what it is?

jrbfishn · Aug 8, 2020

You have led a sheltered life.
Lead bullets have not been widely used for many, many years years. We used jacketed bullets mostly.
There are several .22 cal CF rounds that are just fine for white tail deer in Texas. Bigger IF a shooter can hit the right vital spots.
Many poachers use .22lr and .22 mag because they is quieter than CF cartridges. And will kill a deer just as dead.
There are many reasons someone would use one of the other methods.
One is, they can be fun.

Jeez. But after working Walmart Sporting goods for almost 20 years, stuff like you wrote should not surprise me any more.

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toddnjoyce · Aug 8, 2020

d_holliday said:
Please tell us why you prefer these special methods. For example, does a handgun for deer offer a very special challenge to stalk the animal very close?

I myself prefer the NORM for methods of taking deer (where legal).

Here is my understanding of deer/big-game weapons for hunting in America as a guy age 50+.

The norm for SPORT deer hunting weapons and fodder in America:

1. CF rifle, .243 Win. or more potent

2. bottleneck cartridges w/ lead-based bullets

Special things for SPORT deer hunting, sometimes mandated by local jurisdictions and certain game seasons as follows:

1. straight-walled-cartridge CF rifles

2. shotguns

3. handguns

4. black-powder cartridge rifles

5. muzzleloaders

6. long bows

7. crossbows

8. rimfire rifles, might be unlawful to use for deer in most jurisdictions (my grandfather and father both commented that guys who shoot .22's at deer are idiots)

9. non-lead bullets where law requires

Now, in emergency wilderness situations, I can see using any available weapon to take meat for survival.

Were you dropped on your head as a child?

Your vocabulary makes sentences, but has no meaning.

ZX9RCAM · Aug 8, 2020

d_holliday said:
Please tell us why you prefer these special methods. For example, does a handgun for deer offer a very special challenge to stalk the animal very close?

I myself prefer the NORM for methods of taking deer (where legal).

Here is my understanding of deer/big-game weapons for hunting in America as a guy age 50+.

The norm for SPORT deer hunting weapons and fodder in America:

1. CF rifle, .243 Win. or more potent

2. bottleneck cartridges w/ lead-based bullets

Special things for SPORT deer hunting, sometimes mandated by local jurisdictions and certain game seasons as follows:

1. straight-walled-cartridge CF rifles

2. shotguns

3. handguns

4. black-powder cartridge rifles

5. muzzleloaders

6. long bows

7. crossbows

8. rimfire rifles, might be unlawful to use for deer in most jurisdictions (my grandfather and father both commented that guys who shoot .22's at deer are idiots)

9. non-lead bullets where law requires

Now, in emergency wilderness situations, I can see using any available weapon to take meat for survival.

So, you prefer the normal method.

How many deer have you killed using that, or a different method?

I was 8 when I killed my first deer with a .222.

Bozz10mm · Aug 8, 2020

Did you copy that stuff out of a 1955 hunting guide?

baboon · Aug 8, 2020

Wait until he reads about exotic game hunting in Texas!

Southpaw · Aug 8, 2020

Bozz10mm said:
Did you copy that stuff out of a 1955 hunting guide?

FireInTheWire · Aug 8, 2020

Grill guard or a stick

Hoji · Aug 8, 2020

I lasso them with my dick while standing on a tree branch in my early autumn hunting attire and hang them until they expire.
What is with these goofy hunting questions?

TxStetson · Aug 8, 2020

FireInTheWire said:
Grill guard or a stick

My sentiments exactly.

d_holliday · Aug 8, 2020

Axxe55 said:
Where are you getting your information?

Over my lifetime from my grandfather, my father, the film "The Deer Hunter" and a bunch of Outdoor Life magazines of my grandfather's from the 1960's and 1970's. Yes, there was an article or two about bow hunting and smoke-poles in those pages but modern CF rifles dominated articles on deer and big game. When I was 13, I asked my 1908-born grandfather about bow hunting because I read it in one of his magazines. He said, "Aw, get out of here!" He frowned upon scopes on deer rifles too thinking them unsportsmanlike. My grandfather's two deer rifles were a Swedish bolt-action in .308 and a beloved Savage 99 in .300 Savage. Both with just iron sights, of course. This is what was instilled in my mind about American deer hunting as a young boy. I would even say a .222 is a little bit more acceptable for deer than a .22 rimfire.

I'm not condemning smoke-poles and bows but I bet everybody here a shiny new dime that modern rifles are the means by which the majority of deer in North America are harvested even in modern times. My thread is mainly to ask about what methods of deer/big-game hunting you use if not modern CF rifles in significant bottleneck calibers. I was just curious like the little monkey named George that was owned by the man with the yellow hat. I now hope people here now have a better understanding from where I come.

baboon · Aug 8, 2020

A lot of hunters add black powder & archery to hunt additional seasons & fill the freezer.

d_holliday · Aug 8, 2020

jrbfishn said:
You have led a sheltered life.
Lead bullets have not been widely used for many, many years years. We used jacketed bullets mostly.
There are several .22 cal CF rounds that are just fine for white tail deer in Texas. Bigger IF a shooter can hit the right vital spots.
Many poachers use .22lr and .22 mag because they is quieter than CF cartridges. And will kill a deer just as dead.
There are many reasons someone would use one of the other methods.
One is, they can be fun.

Jeez. But after working Walmart Sporting goods for almost 20 years, stuff like you wrote should not surprise me any more.

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When I say "lead-based" bullets, I meant having lead as a primary component. Jacketed bullets typically have a lead core. I hear some states/jurisdictions have banned bullets with any amount of lead in them whatsoever for deer/big game. Commie-fornia is one such place if I'm not mistaken. Most modern deer ammo is indeed jacketed with lead as a core. Very seldom will cast lead bullets be used in modern rifles as far as I know.

kbaxter60 · Aug 8, 2020

FireInTheWire said:
Grill guard or a stick

I lashed a spear to my brush guard. Legal?

d_holliday · Aug 8, 2020

Hoji said:
I lasso them with my dick while standing on a tree branch in my early autumn hunting attire and hang them until they expire.
What is with these goofy hunting questions?

There is nothing goofy about asking what weapon one uses to hunt. Many non-rifle methods of harvest are perfectly legal depending upon where you hunt. Some places modern rifles are even prohibited for deer and that saddens me personally. I would not even be able to tote the very gun of my romance there: a Savage 99 (tears in my eyes, sniffle, sniffle, boo hoo!). If somebody here hunts deer with a handgun I'm interested to know their reasoning behind it. I'm scared that badly-crafted game legislation will cause a great decline on the legal use of modern rifles and traditional modern rifle ammunition for deer. I think gun/modern rifle seasons in some places are horribly short. I'm scared to death that same mentality that killed off the Savage 99 in 1998 will someday soon kill off modern rifle/traditional ammo big-game hunting in general altogether.

cvgunman · Aug 8, 2020

baboon said:
A lot of hunters add black powder & archery to hunt additional seasons & fill the freezer.

I just bought a bow so I can get out a little earlier this year. I know in Colorado, we would archery hunt elk before general rifle season so the elk weren't scattered all over the country-side. I think second week into elk season the muzzle loaders had their time, prior to rifle season.
You nailed the main reason, "to hunt additional seasons". Also, some are 'purists' in that they only hunt with bow and frown on rifle hunting (have a buddy that way). To each his/her own.
Regardless of method used, make sure it it enough to make a clean, quick, ethical kill.

MacZC7 · Aug 8, 2020

I think he’s a troll

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