AR Pistol Substitute

Axxe55 said:

Weasel, are you dead set on an AR carbine?

If not, check out the Kel-Tec SUB2000 carbine. A friend if mine has one he got last year. I have shot it several times, and it's an awesome carbine and not very expensive. It folds in half and is much more compact than an AR carbine. He keeps his in a bag that looks like a case for a laptop.

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Weasel2255 said:

16.5", kinda long for the wife & not a SBR so restrictions. Can u suggest something else, possibly easier to find, preferably 9mm? I

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Weasel2255 said:

16.5", kinda long for the wife & not a SBR so restrictions. Can u suggest something else, possibly easier to find, preferably 9mm? I

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Axxe55 said:

Might also check out the Ruger PC Carbine as well.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/specSheets/19122.html

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toddnjoyce said:

The PC Charger pistol might be exactly what OP is looking for and should be in his price range.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCharger/models.html

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toddnjoyce said:

The PC Charger pistol might be exactly what OP is looking for and should be in his price range.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCharger/models.html

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Weasel2255 said:

That's bad ass & damn good deal. Allocated or outta stock tho...ofc lol

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toddnjoyce said:

The PC Charger pistol might be exactly what OP is looking for and should be in his price range.

https://ruger.com/products/pcCharger/models.html

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toddnjoyce said:

You’re not looking hard enough.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/873766413

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Weasel2255 said:

Saw that, passed it up tho cuz u gotta bid on it. Buy now price is 900 lol

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toddnjoyce said:

Going back to your OP, you don’t know what you don’t know. I’d really encourage you to think about the following things.

For range practice, most people aren’t going to go thru more than a 30-rd mag at a time as a new shooter, especially women. They’re going to have ear pro and eye pro, so noise isn’t that much of a consideration. Electronic ear pro does a great job to make things quiet. You can easily leave a set of e-pro on the rifle for inside the home usage. It takes three seconds to turn on and don.

Consider the likelihood that this weapon is actually going to be employed in the house...it’s low...use that time to save for a suppressor and the tax stamp...one usage with no ear pro isn’t going to cause total and permanent loss of hearing. At night, I’m more worried about the muzzle flash, etc. from the brakes that are popular nowadays. If you don’t have a suppressor, a flash hider and the ear pro are my preferred setup.

Here’s some light reading in flash hiders.

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-ar15-flash-hiders/

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Axxe55 said:

Weasel, are you dead set on an AR carbine?

If not, check out the Kel-Tec SUB2000 carbine. A friend if mine has one he got last year. I have shot it several times, and it's an awesome carbine and not very expensive. It folds in half and is much more compact than an AR carbine. He keeps his in a bag that looks like a case for a laptop.

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lightflyer1 said:

I owned one once and didn't like it at all. It was small and compact but I just didn't care for it.

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lightflyer1 said:

Even with a flash hider will still produce a bright blinding flash in a dark house. Even the article you linked states that too.

"What you’re left with isn’t a totally invisible flash—and if you’re running 5.56 in a less than 12” barrel you’ll still have a sizeable fireball—but the results from a good flash hider will be remarkably better than a bare barrel or a default A2 flash hider."

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Weasel2255 said:

Well, been watchin shit disappear for about a week, so just went with a 10.5" 5.56 over 300BO cuz price & availability of ammo. Wife said bro n laws 7.5" was pretty comfy so this lighter ammo might accommodate for this xtra 3"of barrel. Idk, sounds good in theory, right?

I'm just glad i finally purchased sumpn & can close all these fukn tabs!! Shit been stressin me out all week lmao.

Really preciate everyone's input, y'all some really cool cats!!

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...-lok-moe-ept-shockwave-pistol-5165448764.html



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Axxe55 said:

What was the final price Weasel?

Not a bad choice.

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Weasel2255 said:

Thx man, think we'll b pretty satisfied. Total was $722.02 TT&L lol. Plus $15 FFL fee

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Weasel2255 said:

Well, been watchin shit disappear for about a week, so just went with a 10.5" 5.56 over 300BO cuz price & availability of ammo. Wife said bro n laws 7.5" was pretty comfy so this lighter ammo might accommodate for this xtra 3"of barrel. Idk, sounds good in theory, right?

I'm just glad i finally purchased sumpn & can close all these fukn tabs!! Shit been stressin me out all week lmao.

Really preciate everyone's input, y'all some really cool cats!!

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...-lok-moe-ept-shockwave-pistol-5165448764.html



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