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  • candcallen

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    Funny how some of these mayors react when their towns are being destroyed. Chickens come home to roost? They realise anarchists, antifa and professional protesters are actually organized criminals.

    I wonder if the phuktards at CNN, Lemon and Cuomo, who praised antifa last year felt the same last night?

    If these mayors give an actual phuck everyone of the outside agitators will be held for the feds and the feds will charge them with the federal crime of crossing state lines to riot or incite a riot. They will go back 7 years and charge one count for every arrest these pukes had at riots they went to and were arrested.

    TAKE A PHUKING STAND.

    Trump is correct, riots lead to shooting and violence against persons. These P U S S Y guilty mayors and governors should allow/direct any violence to be put down immediately and agitators arrested instantly.

    I have been in many riots inside of prisons and present at I think 3 out side of prisons. Irregardless of the location and people involved the agitators must be stopped instantly and when you draw lines they must be sacrosanct and instantly enforced or you will be chased out by the emboldened rioters.

    Basically the Giuliani principle. It's the only way to stop these things. One rock thrown requires and instant response to arrest the one who threw it. Multiple rocks bottles or bricks thrown or property damaged requires an instant full response of gas and munitions to disperse the crowd and you dont let it build back that night. They crossed from Americans exercising their rights to criminals thugs and perpetrators of mob violence.

    You dont arrest protesters or news crews only the agitators and perpetrators of violence. You dont line up police and national guard only to have them retreat once your bluff of a curfew is called.

    Lots of heads up lots of arses. This incident was one time all of America was United in the position that this was wrong and we let these professional agitators anarchists and antifa types hijack corrupt and destroy that unity.
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    candcallen

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    Irregardless is not a word. Use regardless.
    Irregardless is a word. Means the same as regardless. It's called a non standard synonym.

    You are correct that regardless is the short way to the same barn door.

    Some would say irregardless is opposite of regardless and technically they are correct too.
     

    ronbwolf

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    They get the protection they deserve. They have elected these "P U S S Y" mayors, and governors, who soft pedal the control of criminals on a daily basis. Watching the idiot mayor of Minneapolis, and the similar idiot governor, making brave speeches on tv, after their policies and actions,( like ordering the police to abandon a police station) and then setting a curfew, which they waited 4 hours to even try to enforce.

    To stop this violence, it will take violence, and it will not be pretty!

    This violence will not stop until these "leaders," reach down, hitch up their balls, and decide to TAKE BACK control! "Protestors march, hold signs, give speeches, listen to speakers, chant their chants with the crowd. "Violent scum," break windows, set fires, commit thefts, throw bottles, rocks, trash cans, etc.

    ALL of the cities where this is happening, are bastions of liberal policies, and Democrat control. Good luck to anyone who lives there, you voted for it!

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    Bobk

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    The problem that I have is that anytime a person of color dies in LEO's hands it the LEO's fault. No one ever talks about why the police were called to begin with. No one ever talks about the person's previous history. There is no way in hell to know a person's medical condition before he or she is detained. Many of these mayors and governors don't support the law enforcement. Unfortunately, incidents happen but the things are sensationalized on television. Showing these riots just cause more people to riot. A society is made of persons who agree to live under set of law and rules.
     

    Axxe55

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    The problem that I have is that anytime a person of color dies in LEO's hands it the LEO's fault. No one ever talks about why the police were called to begin with. No one ever talks about the person's previous history. There is no way in hell to know a person's medical condition before he or she is detained. Many of these mayors and governors don't support the law enforcement. Unfortunately, incidents happen but the things are sensationalized on television. Showing these riots just cause more people to riot. A society is made of persons who agree to live under set of law and rules.

    So are you asserting that Chauvin's actions towards Floyd were justified, and we should blame Floyd since he DID have criminal history? After all he was just a turd as you have mentioned before.
     

    Big Green

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    oldag

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    The problem that I have is that anytime a person of color dies in LEO's hands it the LEO's fault. No one ever talks about why the police were called to begin with. No one ever talks about the person's previous history. There is no way in hell to know a person's medical condition before he or she is detained. Many of these mayors and governors don't support the law enforcement. Unfortunately, incidents happen but the things are sensationalized on television. Showing these riots just cause more people to riot. A society is made of persons who agree to live under set of law and rules.
    If you had been reading on this board for a while, you would know that is not the case here.

    But there are limits to law enforcement actions.

    Would you be okay if a prior convicted felon was arrested for shop lifting, then was taken outside and shot in the head?
     

    avvidclif

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    If you had been reading on this board for a while, you would know that is not the case here.

    But there are limits to law enforcement actions.

    Would you be okay if a prior convicted felon was arrested for shop lifting, then was taken outside and shot in the head?


    Sure, since obviously he hasn't changed his ways and is no asset to society.


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    Bobk

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    I agree with you that there are/or should be limits to law enforcement actions. The guy that got killed for selling untaxed cigarettes was another senseless tragedy.

    Not justifying the officer's actions, I don't believe at this time that the officer intentionally decided to kill Floyd. He may have gotten carried away in the heat of the moment. No one knows all of the facts or what other factors played into this guy's death or the officer's decision making process. I even read one report that they knew each other from a club that they worked at as bouncers.

    I personally have known guys who got carried away with the heat of the moment. One guy allegedly beat a guy to death while he was a cop with a maglight, later this same guy suffocated a guy with a pillow. Yes, he is in Club Fed.

    Floyd's death was an unintended consequence which stemmed from the initial call to the police. Not justifying the officer's action or a clip of a video. The jury will get to see all of the evidence.

    No, I wouldn't support shooting dragging a convicted felon out of a store for out shoplifting and shooting him in the head.

    Look at Saudi Arabia they would cut his hand off.

    The looting has to stop period.
     

    Axxe55

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    I agree with you that there are/or should be limits to law enforcement actions. The guy that got killed for selling untaxed cigarettes was another senseless tragedy.

    Not justifying the officer's actions, I don't believe at this time that the officer intentionally decided to kill Floyd. He may have gotten carried away in the heat of the moment. No one knows all of the facts or what other factors played into this guy's death or the officer's decision making process. I even read one report that they knew each other from a club that they worked at as bouncers.

    I personally have known guys who got carried away with the heat of the moment. One guy allegedly beat a guy to death while he was a cop with a maglight, later this same guy suffocated a guy with a pillow. Yes, he is in Club Fed.

    Floyd's death was an unintended consequence which stemmed from the initial call to the police. Not justifying the officer's action or a clip of a video. The jury will get to see all of the evidence.

    No, I wouldn't support shooting dragging a convicted felon out of a store for out shoplifting and shooting him in the head.

    Look at Saudi Arabia they would cut his hand off.

    The looting has to stop period.

    Exactly! None of us have all the facts yet. Just as those protesting don't either. It's called rushing to judgement.

    Do we know for fact that Floyd KNOWINGLY passed a phony bill yet? That to my knowledge has not been determined yet. This is why Chauvin's actions that day are highly suspect, and very unprofessional. resulting in the death of someone that was simply a person of interest at that time.

    Last I remember there is simple thing afforded in the Constitution, called due process of law. George Floyd was deprived of that. Another factor. Let's assume for the sake of argument, that those LE officers had probable cause to arrest Floyd on suspicion of a criminal act, and they very may well have had PC, but once he was arrested, and handcuffed, he became their responsibility and they were the custodians of his health, welfare and safety, since his right to freedom had been deprived by due process of the law.
     

    jrbfishn

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    When he expired there was only one holding him down. And h continued even after that fact was obvious.

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    I agree with you that there are/or should be limits to law enforcement actions. The guy that got killed for selling untaxed cigarettes was another senseless tragedy.

    Not justifying the officer's actions, I don't believe at this time that the officer intentionally decided to kill Floyd. He may have gotten carried away in the heat of the moment. No one knows all of the facts or what other factors played into this guy's death or the officer's decision making process. I even read one report that they knew each other from a club that they worked at as bouncers.

    I personally have known guys who got carried away with the heat of the moment. One guy allegedly beat a guy to death while he was a cop with a maglight, later this same guy suffocated a guy with a pillow. Yes, he is in Club Fed.

    Floyd's death was an unintended consequence which stemmed from the initial call to the police. Not justifying the officer's action or a clip of a video. The jury will get to see all of the evidence.

    No, I wouldn't support shooting dragging a convicted felon out of a store for out shoplifting and shooting him in the head.

    Look at Saudi Arabia they would cut his hand off.

    The looting has to stop period.

    That’s the reason why the officer originally got charged with murder 3 instead of murder 1. The upgraded charge may cause him to be found not guilty.


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    toddnjoyce

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    MN gives the jury the ability to convict on lesser included charges.

    631.14 VERDICT FOR LESSER INCLUDED OFFENSE.
    Upon an indictment or complaint for an offense consisting of different degrees, the jury may find the defendant not guilty of the degree charged in the indictment or complaint, and guilty of any degree inferior to that. Upon an indictment or complaint for an offense, the jury may find the defendant not guilty of committing it, and guilty of an attempt to commit it. Upon an indictment or complaint for murder, if the jury finds the defendant not guilty, it may, upon the same indictment or complaint, find the defendant guilty of manslaughter in any degree. In all other cases, the defendant may be found guilty of any offense necessarily included in that offense with which the defendant is charged in the indictment or complaint.
     
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