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  • TexasRedneck

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    If (a big IF) the firearm was registered to you, then you should either do a FFL dealer transfer OR at a minimum get a bill of sale with noted ID numbers. The judge will allow the BOS or not, it is still evidence that you no longer owned a firearm which may be involved in a crime.

    Really? And if the buyer denies that's his signature? Sorry - without a notarized signature, it's toilet paper. And if you're in Texas, NO gun is "registered to you".
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    TexasRedneck

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    A Notary Public does not have anything to do with the sale of a gun or anything else. The notary only signs off on a signature.

    Exactly - which they do after examining the identification of each party that they're notarizing the signature of. It "qualifies" the document, but I can guarantee you that any 1st-year law student will STILL make that thing inadmissible in a court of law.
     

    lightflyer1

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    Even with a BOS you can still be sued and have attorneys fees. So you haven't escaped that by using one. But do it if you want. I too prefer to sell to a LTC holder but we usually just show each other and move on.
     

    majormadmax

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    This is one thing you can always count on from TexasGunTalk, entertainment!

    I guess our newbie here is wondering why nobody has liked this post so far...

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    He has a lot to learn, hopefully not the hard way!

    I have bought several guns from folks on this forum, one very recently. Usually it involves a couple of minutes looking at the firearm, handing over cash, then many minutes talking about guns afterward!

    If anyone asked to run a background check on me, I'd laugh and walk away! The DoD, FBI, SAPD, State of Texas and a long list of similar agencies and organizations have done so over the years, but for good reason. There is no good reason for a simple firearms purchase, but I guess anyone who thinks that a BOS will protect anyone in a court of law hasn't realized that yet.

    I would highly recommend anyone new to private firearm transactions in Texas spend a little time researching the laws of this state, and acting in accordance with them. As several have mentioned, they are free to do what they want; but they won't be getting any of my money, and if any of them don't present this BS up front and I waste my time, money and gas to find out about it when we go to do the sale, they are not going to like the outcome!
     

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    TxStetson

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    I'm trying to remember every gun I have bought, sold, or traded for on this forum. I think the total count is 13. I have met people in the parking lot of Walmart, Best Buy, Cabela's, and most recently Buccee's. I have even met some folks out in the middle of nowhere on the side of the highway to conduct our transactions. In all that time, I have never done a BOS or a receipt of any kind. I did offer to show my LTC last time since it was in the ad that he wanted to see it, but he told me it wasn't necessary.
     

    Axxe55

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    My thoughts.

    If you are selling, the requirements for the sale should be listed with the details of the item being sold, so the buyer isn't surprised at the time of the sale.

    So if you want to do a BOS or want to see a DL, or CHL then it should be specified in the details of the item IMO.
     

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    Coyote9

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    Really? And if the buyer denies that's his signature? Sorry - without a notarized signature, it's toilet paper. And if you're in Texas, NO gun is "registered to you".
    Is a Walther MPK not a gun? Yes a special class gun, but still a gun and still required to be registered even if you reside in the Great State of Texas. Be calm ... we have more in common here than differences
     
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    Coyote9

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    This is one thing you can always count on from TexasGunTalk, entertainment!

    I guess our newbie here is wondering why nobody has liked this post so far...

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    He has a lot to learn, hopefully not the hard way!

    I have bought several guns from folks on this forum, one very recently. Usually it involves a couple of minutes looking at the firearm, handing over cash, then many minutes talking about guns afterward!

    If anyone asked to run a background check on me, I'd laugh and walk away! The DoD, FBI, SAPD, State of Texas and a long list of similar agencies and organizations have done so over the years, but for good reason. There is no good reason for a simple firearms purchase, but I guess anyone who thinks that a BOS will protect anyone in a court of law hasn't realized that yet.

    I would highly recommend anyone new to private firearm transactions in Texas spend a little time researching the laws of this state, and acting in accordance with them. As several have mentioned, they are free to do what they want; but they won't be getting any of my money, and if any of them don't present this BS up front and I waste my time, money and gas to find out about it when we go to do the sale, they are not going to like the outcome!
     

    easy rider

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    Is a Walther MPK not a gun? Yes a special class gun, but still a gun and still required to be registered even if you reside in the Great State of Texas. Be calm ... we have more in common here than differences
    Texas does not require a gun registration. Comparing NFA items that are applied to own and registered by the ATF is only "in common" because it is required in all states. The "in common" ends with the fact that your chances of being allowed to own such a gun legally where the state, that also require a gun registration, are slim.
     
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    SQLGeek

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    Is a Walther MPK not a gun? Yes a special class gun, but still a gun and still required to be registered even if you reside in the Great State of Texas. Be calm ... we have more in common here than differences

    Your original advice of "Or at least a BOS" for a Class III firearm would get someone put in jail.
     
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