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    Good for you, man!

    I won't dawg others who smoke but I can't stand the stench so I smoke o/s or in bad weather, at an exhaust fan.

    That makes you the perfect candidate to quit!! That is where I was and just wanted out!!! I don't mind being around it but confined space makes me crazy.
    Chantix is expensive but even if your insurance won't help...what do you spend on cigs and what is your ass worth to you!! Promise you will be the happier panda!!!
    (dawg off)
     

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    That makes you the perfect candidate to quit!! That is where I was and just wanted out!!! I don't mind being around it but confined space makes me crazy.
    Chantix is expensive but even if your insurance won't help...what do you spend on cigs and what is your ass worth to you!! Promise you will be the happier panda!!!
    (dawg off)

    I’m not “anti-chantix”, but I will say it turned me in to a zombie for a month. I was different enough that when the month was over and it was time to refill my wife asked me not to. It took every last bit of joy out of life and gave me some really weird thoughts.

    It for a few days after I quit taking it I felt really good. I didn’t want cigarettes and I was happy again. But on the third or fourth day the cravings came back like I hadn’t quit. No doubt this was because I didn’t do the full course, but my wife wouldn’t have asked me to stop for just a minor change. The side effects really vary depending on the person


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    My wife had a sever physical reaction and had to stop as well. Just glad it worked in my case.....wish it did for everyone that wants to break the habit!!
     

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    My wife had a sever physical reaction and had to stop as well. Just glad it worked in my case.....wish it did for everyone that wants to break the habit!!

    Me too. Those few days in between were amazing.


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    That makes you the perfect candidate to quit!! That is where I was and just wanted out!!! I don't mind being around it but confined space makes me crazy.
    Chantix is expensive but even if your insurance won't help...what do you spend on cigs and what is your ass worth to you!! Promise you will be the happier panda!!!
    (dawg off)
    It's not dawgin if the conversation is invited.

    No doubt I'd be more happy if I quit but I've heard more negative than positive about Chantix so I'm very hesitant to give it go.

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    I quit for over a year and a half after using Chantix. I only started smoking again after the doctors talked about cutting off my good arm from the elbow down, or cutting out major chunks of it and fusing it at a 45.

    It's a weird, and often freaky drug, that needs the right mentality and mindset to take it. I had a few more than I care to admit to, extremely vivid and wild dreams, and a very few, more emotional outbursts than normal. Nothing major, just getting irate at a drawing when I just knew it was on my desk. And it was, just on the opposite end, type thing. Not mad at people stuff, just inanimate objects. I know a guy that quit smoking, wholly and completely after taking it for about a week or so and never looked back. I also had a friend of mine almost end up in the Psyche ward of the hospital after attempting to use it. As has been stated previously, success with this varies from person to person. But, if you have a strong and positive mental attitude with reasonable expectations, this might be another option for you.

    If I had not found vaping to be a viable option to help me quit, I would have been very willing to give Chantix another try.
     

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    I quit for over a year and a half after using Chantix. I only started smoking again after the doctors talked about cutting off my good arm from the elbow down, or cutting out major chunks of it and fusing it at a 45.

    It's a weird, and often freaky drug, that needs the right mentality and mindset to take it. I had a few more than I care to admit to, extremely vivid and wild dreams, and a very few, more emotional outbursts than normal. Nothing major, just getting irate at a drawing when I just knew it was on my desk. And it was, just on the opposite end, type thing. Not mad at people stuff, just inanimate objects. I know a guy that quit smoking, wholly and completely after taking it for about a week or so and never looked back. I also had a friend of mine almost end up in the Psyche ward of the hospital after attempting to use it. As has been stated previously, success with this varies from person to person. But, if you have a strong and positive mental attitude with reasonable expectations, this might be another option for you.

    If I had not found vaping to be a viable option to help me quit, I would have been very willing to give Chantix another try.

    The dreams were crazy. I couldn’t count the times I woke up thinking I had stuff today from a nonexistent previous day I had only dreamed up, or sweating wondering if the cops would catch me and thinking I should just turn myself in. I mean, full blown panic and it would take a good bit of time to calm down and realize it wasn’t real. I’d forgotten about the dreams. Probably the worst part.

    I also considering crawling up walls like spider man many times. Not sure why, I’d just stare at a wall and think “I wanna crawl up it”, but it was real negative. Not in a fun way.

    There was some real dark stuff. Never felt like I was gonna hurt somebody, but just weird and sometimes dark shit ran through my head.

    That said, I know others who went 3 months and never mentioned any negative side effects. Messi g with brain chemistry isn’t an exact science and it shows. Gave me some insight on what it must be like for people who are prescribed anti depressants, which is what chantix really is.


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    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-02/sfts-nss021720.php

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    The study included 618,497 participants with no diagnosis or treatment for depression in the prior 12 months. Compared with NRT, varenicline [Chantix] and bupropion [Wellbutrin and Zyban] were associated with a 20% and 25% lower 1-year risk of cardiovascular hospitalization, respectively. Also compared with NRT, varenicline and bupropion were associated with a 35% lower and 21% higher 1-year risk of neuropsychiatric hospitalization, respectively.
     

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    If I’m reading that right, it’s showing Chantix as a positive. But maybe I’m not.


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    I’m not “anti-chantix”, but I will say it turned me in to a zombie for a month.
    Shut my kidneys down. Only took about a week...... good times.

    Few months later we saw Chase at Twenty Nine Palms and he cursed me for takin it explaining that he saw tons of people every day that came into the ER on Chantix. Of course there was every side effect you could think of.
     

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    Shut my kidneys down. Took about a week...... good times.

    Few months later we saw Chase at Twenty Nine Palms and he cursed me for takin it explaining that he saw tons of people every day that came into the ER on Chantix. Of course there was every side effect you could think of.

    I had a long talk with my wife before trying it and we agreed that if the side effects ever got to the point she was uncomfortable she would get me off of it.


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    Messing with brain chemistry isn’t an exact science and it shows. Gave me some insight on what it must be like for people who are prescribed anti depressants, which is what chantix really is.

    Which is one of the things I never understood. The doctors won't, and under any known circumstances, never will, prescribe Welbutrin to me. Which is an anti-depressant, that can often, and effectively, help folks quit smoking, because I had a TBI. But after a twenty minute, most likely less, conversation with my primary care doctor they were willing to prescribe to me a drug that had a legitimate possibility of making think I really was ten foot tall, bullet proof, and could fly.

    Just makes me wonder...

    Now granted, this drug had only been on the market for two, maybe, threes years when I took it. So I'm sure all now known and then unknown side effects were not available.
     
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    10 years ago my doctor suggested Chantix to me. I asked him what the side affects were. He looked at me sideways for a second as if to say "Nothing worse than chemo therapy or radiation treatments." I know he wanted to say that, heh. But then he started with the long list of side affects.

    I said "No thanks doc, I'll take my chances with vaping". He was good with that.
     

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    Okay guys and gals, I need some opinions and ideas. I'm looking for a fairly inexpensive, fairly small-ish dual 18650 box mod. I've got a two year old(+-) Sigelei Shikra that is slowly dying on me, and a SMOK Species that eats up batteries. And I Hate the fire button on the SMOK.

    I'd like to keep it below the $50.00 range. Something that will last, do well in wattage only, the other options are just wasted on me, and will work well with an Eleaf IJust S tank.
     
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