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gll · Nov 30, 2019

OK, granted the article is from Slate, so ya'll can take it or leave it for what it's worth...

Age Your Canned Goods

Why I now think of best-by dates as maybe-getting-interesting-by dates.

By HAROLD MCGEE

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate....-canned-tuna-and-spam-even-more-delicious.amp

Maybe the most important takeaway from the article (something you can find many elsewheres) is that today's 'Best By' dates are nothing more than a taste test panel's determination of when the taste of a product first differs from fresh processed.

If you open a can and the contents don't smell bad, you are likely good to go.

I keep a fairly large supply of canned goods in general rotation, but have had things slip by (like canned corn) that when eaten 8 years later was just fine.

Even long term storage freeze dried foods change taste and lose vitamins over long storage. Things like canned dried beans darken and get hard.

I think the first year or two of emergency storage foods should be canned or dried, as they can be accumulated in extra normal purchases at your grocery store, and used in rotation. Rice and pasta will last virtually forever, especially if sealed in vacuum bags.

A hallway wall can provide a load of rotation storage using racks like this one expanded and modified to fill your space.

HKaltwasser · Nov 30, 2019

pronstar said:
I’m just starting to look into this...but it seems that high-protein dehydrated food is considerably more expensive than food with little or no protein.

Is that way you guys are experiencing as well?

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Yes, it's definitely more expensive. I have several #10 cans of beef and chicken soI can add what I want. This seems to be the easiest way.

Mowingmaniac 24/7 · Nov 30, 2019

Why not buy Quaker Oats if storing oatmeal, put it in a vac sealer?

Does it 'too' have to be freeze dried in order to last?

And is DIY free drying an option?

Then, putting the results in a vacuum food sealer?

Or is DIY not viable as the effort is too much and the convenience of simply buying freeze dried simpler and less costly in the long run considering time and effort etc.?

Thanks!

HKaltwasser · Nov 30, 2019

That may be an option with oatmeal, I'm not sure, it just came in the pack. It wasn't necessarily something we chose.

My wife and I have thought about buying a freeze drying machine, but starting at 5k for the freeze drier and the food to feed, work involved. I just figured it's best to just buy the tested recipes. We figured too much effort. If you can find like minds to invest together, this may be a more viable option.

Davetex · Dec 1, 2019

I've bought a bunch of freeze dried from here. I wait for sales to buy, but been doing it a long time.

https://www.beprepared.com/

Darkpriest667 · Dec 1, 2019

Unless there is radiation or a cross species plague you're probably going to be hunting for yourself in a situation in which you have to survive longer than 30 days. I'd stick to the cheap stuff that is high in carbs and calories because that's what you'll need for the amount of energy you'll be expending in any without rule of law scenario. You can pick up the protein through hunting.

BTW a lot of these companies tell you something goes bad so you'll end up buying more. For instance "the internet" tells you ramen noodles go bad in a year. The packaged 12 for a dollar ramen that has nothing in it but the noodles and the packet will not go bad for probably decades. The preservatives that are put in it will keep it good to go longer than anyone reading this will live. NOW, to caveat that, I am only talking about the noodles in the plastic sheath like top and manchuran ramen. The cups and that stuff is no good after a little bit (although it too is freeze dried.)

You pull the noodles out of it's sheath and put it in vacuum sealed bag in a constant temperature and it will outlive the human species. Anyone with a basic knowledge of chemistry could tell you that. Then again what do I know, I am just some guy on the internet.

Mowingmaniac 24/7 · Dec 1, 2019

DP,

Whether you live in the suburbs or in a deep forest or swamp even, have you considered how much hunting pressure they'd be?

Given the desperation some may experience, do you think you might also be hunted as competition for protein in a long lasting SHTF scenario?

Where I live there's lot of game. Most of my neighbors are avid hunters. They wouldn't remain indoors. The game available today would quickly be hunted out. It would be this scenario everywhere.

Then what?

vmax · Dec 1, 2019

pronstar said:
I’m just starting to look into this...but it seems that high-protein dehydrated food is considerably more expensive than food with little or no protein.

Is that way you guys are experiencing as well?

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Dried beans are good for protein and store well
Also you could start laying in some good quality protein powder to mix in with it or eat with those meals.
In a SHTF situation, carbs are important but so in protein. You should try and get .8 grams per day, per lb of body weight to keep from losing muscle in a high stress scenario.

Darkpriest667 · Dec 1, 2019

Mowingmaniac 24/7 said:
DP,

Whether you live in the suburbs or in a deep forest or swamp even, have you considered how much hunting pressure they'd be?

Given the desperation some may experience, do you think you might also be hunted as competition for protein in a long lasting SHTF scenario?

Where I live there's lot of game. Most of my neighbors are avid hunters. They wouldn't remain indoors. The game available today would quickly be hunted out. It would be this scenario everywhere.

Then what?

Yeah, I'm not against cannibalism. If you cook it you won't get CJD. I meant hunting. I know the competition will be there for deer, elk, cattle. But what will be plentiful is fat people who are easy to shoot.

HKaltwasser · Dec 1, 2019

Well I revisited the oatmeal and it wasn't as bad as I remember. It's similar to HEB brand where it doesn't quite soften as good as Quaker. Some sugar and butter and it was pretty good not great.

A while ago I broke open some cheesy broccoli rice. I was pleasantly surprised by this one, I thought it would be salty but it tasted pretty good. Add some fresh cracked pepper and scoop with saltines.

ZX9RCAM · Dec 1, 2019

It really sucks being on a diet which necessitates low carb intake.
That stuff, and similar, is off the menu, lol.

Mowingmaniac 24/7 · Dec 1, 2019

DP,

Now, that right there is funny........

No you won't get 'Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease'' if you don't eat their brains.

Though, I didn't mean you'd be hunted for your delicious meat, but will be hunted down and killed because you're competition for wild game.

To be sure though, in dire times, cannibalism occurs more often than the queasy like to mention or admit.

Of late, the starving Norks have cauldrons that boil and bubble with rich, hominid stew, ah, be sure to remove any rings...ear or hand...before immersing into the broth.

Add a few onions, oh yeah, wild onions are available and some dandelions and anything else you can rustle up to stretch out the 'oh so scrumptious' stew...

I'd start out hunting squirrels, rabbits, (they're both in my yard day and night) feral hogs, raccoons, armadillos and a few deer.

When they're all hunted out, you my fat young thing a few streets away, look dee-lish...

pronstar · Dec 1, 2019

Mowingmaniac 24/7 said:
DP,

Now, that right there is funny........

No you won't get 'Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease'' if you don't eat their brains.

Though, I didn't mean you'd be hunted for your delicious meat, but will be hunted down and killed because you're competition for wild game.

To be sure though, in dire times, cannibalism occurs more often than the queasy like to mention or admit.

Of late, the starving Norks have cauldrons that boil and bubble with rich, hominid stew, ah, be sure to remove any rings...ear or hand...before immersing into the broth.

Add a few onions, oh yeah, wild onions are available and some dandelions and anything else you can rustle up to stretch out the 'oh so scrumptious' stew...

I'd start out hunting squirrels, rabbits, (they're both in my yard day and night) feral hogs, raccoons, armadillos and a few deer.

When they're all hunted out, you my fat young thing a few streets away, look dee-lish...

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Mohawk600 · Dec 2, 2019

I would eat some of my neighbors.......the young pretty ones.

bowjunky39$ · Feb 2, 2020

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Darkpriest667 · Feb 2, 2020

bowjunky39$ said:
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bowjunky39$ · Feb 2, 2020

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toddnjoyce · Feb 2, 2020

bowjunky39$ said:
Dang everyone ask me that I paid 10 dollars to sell.

If you wonder why, I have to ask if you read the sticky in the Classifieds section.

https://texasguntalk.com/threads/classifieds.22305/

While I appreciate you becoming a supporter, this forum isn’t mainly for selling.

You should walk over to the Reunion thread and see a lot of what this place is about.

no2gates · Feb 2, 2020

I still don't understand why people don't want to post on Texas Gun Trader or ArmsList, and want to stick to only posting ads here.

Coyote9 · Oct 26, 2020

Mohawk600 said:
your canned goods will only last so long and have to be constantly rotated...or else lost.....why not buy some good stuff that you don't have to worry about expiring? Its less weight....better vittles.....and if it lasts longer than you do....your heirs get an emergency food supply.

I like a mix..canned goods are good if you are in your safe place already, then just eat off the back of your stash and restock monthly. A n advantage goes to canned goods if your water supply is threatened or takes a lot of energy to purify. I keep a stock of three cases MRE and two Foods for Patriots $400 dehydrated units (4 cases) Yes it can be had cheaper but my family likes the taste and they give bonus deals to regulars. My Colorado kids came down during Covid shortages last spring and took my canned stash, so mine is now pretty fresh! The thing is BE PREPARED, how you prepare is small talk.

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