Texas FFL Transfer List
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I don't see how anyone starts a new gun store any other way. If it's possible to stock high-end guns and go after that market, OK. If a new business can make most of their money off their attached range, OK again. But if selling "normal" guns out of store stock is what someone wants to do, I don't see how they can make a living at it.
I do transfers for $25 in the Greatwood Area.
$10 transfers in the Harker Heights/ Killeen/ Ft Hood area from this guy. Good guy to chat with at gun shows too.
* One disclaimer: he sells PSA, Anderson, and maybe a few other discount firearms and receivers. Call him first if you are looking at those. He said he will charge a $30 transfer if you order something that he sells. He is very reasonable on what he carries anyways. It is just the brands he carries too, not all receivers. A Spikes, RRA, or others would be $10. Just call first to be sure.
* One disclaimer: he sells PSA, Anderson, and maybe a few other discount firearms and receivers. Call him first if you are looking at those. He said he will charge a $30 transfer if you order something that he sells. He is very reasonable on what he carries anyways. It is just the brands he carries too, not all receivers. A Spikes, RRA, or others would be $10. Just call first to be sure.
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New Braunfels area for transfer of multiple guns up to 4 is $21.65.
Freddy's Pawn
http://freddyspawn.com/
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Freddy's Pawn
http://freddyspawn.com/
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Crosby Ace Hardware
5419 Fm 2100
Crosby, TX 77532
Phone: (281) 328-2555
crosbyacehardware@gmail.com
I have used these guys a few times over the years. As of today $20
Their web page is "ACE" so there is no mention of the FFL. Like I said in another post. Its an interesting experience going to the hardware store to get your gun. They will also handle Gallery of Guns purchases.
5419 Fm 2100
Crosby, TX 77532
Phone: (281) 328-2555
crosbyacehardware@gmail.com
I have used these guys a few times over the years. As of today $20
Their web page is "ACE" so there is no mention of the FFL. Like I said in another post. Its an interesting experience going to the hardware store to get your gun. They will also handle Gallery of Guns purchases.
Honestly, I dunno about the business model, I just know they're good people. And they're good firearms people. And they're good Americans.
They build a LOT of AR15s. A lot. Most they do on spec: they just build them, put them on the wall, and eventually they get sold... in lots of calibers and configurations. They'll also build one to a customers' specs: You name a caliber, barrel preference, however much detail you want, and they'll get 'er done.
They are very good at figuring out what will work for a new shooter, or someone moving up in the firearm world. They aren't really sales people, so much as problem or needs solvers... the guns sell themselves, they just figure out what will work best or better for someone.
They also have an in-house, honest-to-god gunsmith on the premises. He's a badass. From simple action checks to restoring family heirlooms, to fixing some crazy one-off problems, Andrew is the MAN. I took in a pretty rare gun that had a firing pin problem...turned out it was broken, and too much of it was gone and mangled to fix, so he built, hardened, and fitted a new one for me from scratch. Yeah, yeah, any good 'smith could do the same, but Andrew is simply amazing.
They are on a major highway (I45) and although they don't have a huge sign, just about every gun guy in the area knows them.
In my youth, that was the most common way to get a gun.
There were two gun dealers in the little town where I grew up. One was a hardware store that sold normal guns for normal folks.
The other was a drug store where the pharmacist had a very fancy curtained-off boutique gun store in the back of his drug store/soda fountain. He sold high-dollar guns to the well-to-do. I didn't even know his shop existed until I was 18. It wasn't listed in the phone book, wasn't advertised anywhere, and existed solely by word-of-mouth. It was as close to an invitation-only club as you could be and still be legal.
Texas Gun & Supply
07/02 FFL
Transfers & Custom Orders
La Porte, TX
1 Firearm - $15
2-4 Firearms - $20
5+ Items - $20 + $5 per serial
CHL/MIL/LEO Discount
281-356-0301 / 832-655-4625 (Texts Welcome)
www.texasgunandsupply.com
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07/02 FFL
Transfers & Custom Orders
La Porte, TX
1 Firearm - $15
2-4 Firearms - $20
5+ Items - $20 + $5 per serial
CHL/MIL/LEO Discount
281-356-0301 / 832-655-4625 (Texts Welcome)
www.texasgunandsupply.com
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I recently did a transfer of a rifle at Legendary Shooting Sports (aka: Legendary Firearms). The cost was $25.00. The process was painless, they had no qualms about doing a transfer for a gun not purchased from them. The guy who did the transfer (I think his name was Keith but don't hold me to that) was very courteous and friendly. I'd do a transfer there again.
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Just a little inside baseball based on some posts I read.
1. When you "buy from Gallery of Guns", you're not really buying from them. You're choosing which dealer to buy from. They are the front end for a distributor named Davidson's. The dealer sets their markup and fees and then when you put that down payment on it, it forces the dealer to buy from that distributor, the dealer pays the balance owed minus your 20% down. When it says "pay in store this amount", after all the accounting is done, the dealer makes his profit there. Just a different way to skin a cat.
Incidentally, buying from Silencer Shop is the same thing. We set the prices as dealers. It's actually best to reach out to your dealer first. In our case, we sometimes have "better-than-our-Silencer-Shop-price" in store, but the worst deal is what SShop has...which is usually a good deal on its own. And you still get whatever the promo is (free brake, $99 22 can, $100 GC, etc). Sometimes we get deals like when we bought 20 Thunderbeast cans direct, we can sell them cheaper in house, or we get a dealer promo on SilencerCo like "buy 4 Omegas and get a Hybrid" and we pass on the savings to the customers. Always ask first!
2. MANY of the online stores are just drop shipping. Some have some inventory but often they just dropship (including Bud's, Gunbroker, Sportsmans Guide, etc). It's like fingernails on a chalkboard for me to get a gun "Sold by Sportsman's Guide, log in to your book from XYZ Distributors". That means I could have ordered that gun for the customer from the same distro. SG never touched it. They don't even log the gun in their books. They just processed an order and it took them about 30 seconds to do it. SG gets $50 profit for making the sale, I get $25 for doing the transfer...and the customer paid more than he had to.
I recommend that you ALWAYS ask your local dealer who you're using to transfer the gun in if he can match the online price. If I list a gun for $500 and SG shows it for $470, but my cost in the gun is $440 (a paltry 15% markup), the customer thinks "I saved $5 shopping online ($470+25 transfer)...aren't I clever!" But then SG dropships it. Had the customer asked me to price match (out the door), I might have said, "I can do it for $480 out the door". So the customer pays $15 LESS and I made $15 MORE. We both win! It doesn't sound like much, but that's a 60% increase in dealer profit! Wouldn't you like a 60% raise for doing the same work? And now I'M servicing the gun, not SG. If it comes in wrong, that's on me. If you need help, that's on me. I get the warm fuzzy because you "bought from me" and it feels like a relationship, not like you're picking up your mail at the PO Box. If I just do the transfer, you have to call SG with any problems or concerns. They sold it to you. We're just in charge of the paperwork at that point.
Just realize that I bet all of your receiving FFLs would like a shot at price matching out the door (or even beating it) if you just give them a chance. There are a few times that PSA might sell something below my cost. I can't beat that. But I bet I've done 50 transfers that I could have saved the customer money if he just asked...and made more for myself than the $25 transfer. Just ask. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Final anecdote: a couple of years ago a guy transfers a Noveske Infidel to us. Another guy comes in and asks if we can get that exact same gun. I order it for him. Both guns come in at the same time. Both customers come in to pick them up at the same time. The guy who bought it from me was $75 less and I didn't even have to discount it! Free shipping to the store. No transfer fees. Competitive pricing. I told that to the guy who paid more and he said "Oh, I didn't even think to ask. I just assume it was cheaper online. Well, I'm also looking for an LWRC." I showed him the price. $1550. He said, "Well damn, that's pretty good too. That's about what I've been seeing them for. Go ahead and order it for me."
Sometimes the online list price is less but once you add in all the extras (Brownell's $10 "firearm fee", genericonline.com $10 flat rate shipping, etc, and then the transfer fee), it's more!
And since we're advertising fees apparently: $25 Non-NFA transfer, $75 silencers, $150 Machine Guns & SBRs (or anything else that takes up a bunch of room in the safe for a year), and $5 per non-FFL-required item (If you have a Pelican case sent to the store without a gun, or a case of ammo to go with your transferred gun, or a giant box full of Aero parts that we happen to sell also...just send the receiver here and the rest to your house).
**obviously this is about new guns and dropshiping. If you find old guns, used guns, or collectibles online, transfers are the way of course.
1. When you "buy from Gallery of Guns", you're not really buying from them. You're choosing which dealer to buy from. They are the front end for a distributor named Davidson's. The dealer sets their markup and fees and then when you put that down payment on it, it forces the dealer to buy from that distributor, the dealer pays the balance owed minus your 20% down. When it says "pay in store this amount", after all the accounting is done, the dealer makes his profit there. Just a different way to skin a cat.
Incidentally, buying from Silencer Shop is the same thing. We set the prices as dealers. It's actually best to reach out to your dealer first. In our case, we sometimes have "better-than-our-Silencer-Shop-price" in store, but the worst deal is what SShop has...which is usually a good deal on its own. And you still get whatever the promo is (free brake, $99 22 can, $100 GC, etc). Sometimes we get deals like when we bought 20 Thunderbeast cans direct, we can sell them cheaper in house, or we get a dealer promo on SilencerCo like "buy 4 Omegas and get a Hybrid" and we pass on the savings to the customers. Always ask first!
2. MANY of the online stores are just drop shipping. Some have some inventory but often they just dropship (including Bud's, Gunbroker, Sportsmans Guide, etc). It's like fingernails on a chalkboard for me to get a gun "Sold by Sportsman's Guide, log in to your book from XYZ Distributors". That means I could have ordered that gun for the customer from the same distro. SG never touched it. They don't even log the gun in their books. They just processed an order and it took them about 30 seconds to do it. SG gets $50 profit for making the sale, I get $25 for doing the transfer...and the customer paid more than he had to.
I recommend that you ALWAYS ask your local dealer who you're using to transfer the gun in if he can match the online price. If I list a gun for $500 and SG shows it for $470, but my cost in the gun is $440 (a paltry 15% markup), the customer thinks "I saved $5 shopping online ($470+25 transfer)...aren't I clever!" But then SG dropships it. Had the customer asked me to price match (out the door), I might have said, "I can do it for $480 out the door". So the customer pays $15 LESS and I made $15 MORE. We both win! It doesn't sound like much, but that's a 60% increase in dealer profit! Wouldn't you like a 60% raise for doing the same work? And now I'M servicing the gun, not SG. If it comes in wrong, that's on me. If you need help, that's on me. I get the warm fuzzy because you "bought from me" and it feels like a relationship, not like you're picking up your mail at the PO Box. If I just do the transfer, you have to call SG with any problems or concerns. They sold it to you. We're just in charge of the paperwork at that point.
Just realize that I bet all of your receiving FFLs would like a shot at price matching out the door (or even beating it) if you just give them a chance. There are a few times that PSA might sell something below my cost. I can't beat that. But I bet I've done 50 transfers that I could have saved the customer money if he just asked...and made more for myself than the $25 transfer. Just ask. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Final anecdote: a couple of years ago a guy transfers a Noveske Infidel to us. Another guy comes in and asks if we can get that exact same gun. I order it for him. Both guns come in at the same time. Both customers come in to pick them up at the same time. The guy who bought it from me was $75 less and I didn't even have to discount it! Free shipping to the store. No transfer fees. Competitive pricing. I told that to the guy who paid more and he said "Oh, I didn't even think to ask. I just assume it was cheaper online. Well, I'm also looking for an LWRC." I showed him the price. $1550. He said, "Well damn, that's pretty good too. That's about what I've been seeing them for. Go ahead and order it for me."
Sometimes the online list price is less but once you add in all the extras (Brownell's $10 "firearm fee", genericonline.com $10 flat rate shipping, etc, and then the transfer fee), it's more!
And since we're advertising fees apparently: $25 Non-NFA transfer, $75 silencers, $150 Machine Guns & SBRs (or anything else that takes up a bunch of room in the safe for a year), and $5 per non-FFL-required item (If you have a Pelican case sent to the store without a gun, or a case of ammo to go with your transferred gun, or a giant box full of Aero parts that we happen to sell also...just send the receiver here and the rest to your house).
**obviously this is about new guns and dropshiping. If you find old guns, used guns, or collectibles online, transfers are the way of course.
This may be true now that most online retailers are charging sales tax. But prior to 1 Oct 2019, I had a hard time finding a storefront willing to eat that pesky sales tax charge and beat online purchases. Add in a free shipping special, plus no internet sales tax, and I find it hard to believe you could beat PSA pricing before the recent sales tax change.
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You're absolutely right. Before the sales tax thing, and for buyers who are just about price, the B&M couldn't compete. If OP is selling a scope for 12% over cost, and I have to eat 7.25% sales tax and 3% credit card, I make 1.5% gross profit (still have to pay employees, website fees, rent, lights, insurance..and my food bill). OP meanwhile pays the same 3% credit card fee but then makes the rest of the 9%. They probably actually make more, but let's just leave it at that. So they make 9% versus my 1.5%. I can't compete on that. That's why they can offer free shipping, free returns, whatever.
We can offer free mounting that they can't, but we shouldn't have to since that's an add on service. The sales tax things was very unfair (like "too big to fail" that didn't help small business). Now that it's a level playing field, hopefully we LGSs can earn your business.
Hey, I'm one of Amazon's biggest customers so I get it. It's convenient. But I also don't go to Lowe's or Joe's Hardware and ask them for free advice or tell them the stories about my deck project for an hour because my wife kicked me out of the house just to then shop online. Time is money. LGSs offer a relationship that sometimes transcends just the sticker price of an item.
In fact, I had a guy come in today and said "I bought this gun from you but then I put this other brace on it. The pin broke and I can't [stake the castle nut] so can you do it?" Of course. And I have to charge him $30 for the service. Had he bought that brace from me, I'd likely have done it for free. So his savings on the brace plus my service actually cost him more in the long run.
I've written articles on the death of the LGS for industry mags. We will have to adapt to the new industry. Either the LGS offers more services, and charges handsomely for them (think car dealer service rates), or they'll be out of business. When was the last time you visited a Blockbuster Video? Evolve or die. I used to be a retail stockbroker. ETrade et al pretty much killed that industry. Similar forecast.
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