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  • gaines67

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    I’m not trying to justify anything. Just having an interesting conversation about proof, politics and apparently hypocrisy. Of course you think Franken is guilty and Kavanaugh is the victim of a smear campaign. If Franken was a conservative member of the Senate and Kavanaugh a liberal just appointed by Obama, I suspect your opinion would be different. If I am wrong about that, then I stand corrected.


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    I’m not trying to justify anything. Just having an interesting conversation about proof, politics and apparently hypocrisy. Of course you think Franken is guilty and Kavanaugh is the victim of a smear campaign. If Franken was a conservative member of the Senate and Kavanaugh a liberal just appointed by Obama, I suspect your opinion would be different. If I am wrong about that, then I stand corrected.


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    You suspect wrong. Nobody gets any slack on here, especially RINO's and liberals.
     

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    Yes, yes I hear you. This forum self screens for Republicans, conservatives and some libertarians (ie strong supporters of 2A). Not a surprise where everyone stands in this. I remain unsure what to believe. That said, innocent until proven guilty.
    I wonder how you judge the allegations against Al Franken. The only corroborated evidence is the picture of him pretending to fondle his victim while she slept. The rest are allegations.
    You sound like a very confused individual. You sound like the product of mass hypnosis, public education, and brainwashing by the entertainment and news media industries. Good luck with your notions that the liberals want a land of rainbows, unicorns, and leprechauns. They do not.
     

    DoubleDuty

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    There is no supporting evidence and ample evidence that it was all made up, admittedly made up in at least 2 cases.

    The ford case includes a husband with ample evidence that she purgered herself when testifying and lied about her fear of flying as well as the reason for the addition to the house. Her own witnesses say they have no memory of the party. And all available evidence shows that Kavanaugh did not attempt.

    So yeah, evidence supports they are liars far more so than it being a “he said/she said”.


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    Her lawyer admitted it was political and therefore a lie.
     

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    You sound like a very confused individual. You sound like the product of mass hypnosis, public education, and brainwashing by the entertainment and news media industries. Good luck with your notions that the liberals want a land of rainbows, unicorns, and leprechauns. They do not.

    I take neither political party’s views or policies (or any opinions) as gospel without challenging the assumptions. I genuflect to no one, yet you say I am the product of mass hypnosis because I won’t agree with you or the majority of other 2A supporters. Now who is brainwashed?
     

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    I’m not trying to justify anything. Just having an interesting conversation about proof, politics and apparently hypocrisy. Of course you think Franken is guilty and Kavanaugh is the victim of a smear campaign. If Franken was a conservative member of the Senate and Kavanaugh a liberal just appointed by Obama, I suspect your opinion would be different. If I am wrong about that, then I stand corrected.


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    I said Frankin was guilty of being a creep, based on a recent photo of him pretending to grope a sleeping woman.

    I said Kav was the victim of a smear campaign based on all evidence showing his accusers were lying. Several literally said they made it all up. Ford had her own witnesses saying they were never at any such party, she flew all over the country despite claiming she could barely stand to get on a plane, and she lied about why they had a second door put in on their house. Literally everything in her life was the opposite of what she claimed and literally nobody she claimed would verify her story remember anything even remotely similar happening.

    The fact that you think there is any hypocrisy in how my opinions settled on these two situations shows that you have a glaring bias yourself. The mental gymnastics you’re doing to justify such a warped world view are impressive.


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    DoubleDuty

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    I take neither political party’s views or policies (or any opinions) as gospel without challenging the assumptions. I genuflect to no one, yet you say I am the product of mass hypnosis because I won’t agree with you or the majority of other 2A supporters. Now who is brainwashed?
    There is no doubt that the Dems smeared him. They deliberately lied. They said what they were going to do before DJT even made his choice. Democrat politicians and the MSM colluded in it.
     

    kbaxter60

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    Read in detail about the "allegations" against Kavanaugh. They have all either been withdrawn, or the accuser has admitted they don't remember, or they have been disputed by contemporaries or debunked by the FBI. There are no even "maybe" allegations.
    Yes! Exactly! I was a bit behind on this "story" and just read this piece to find that the alleged victim has "no recollection of the incident". That's astounding. There's a book out; Kav should be convicted in the court of public opinion; no crime can be corroborated; it was a LONG time ago; SURE, the NYT will run with it.
    They just took the play book from the Christine Blasey-Ford debacle and decided to re run it.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019...s-anti-kavanaugh-bombshell-is-actually-a-dud/
     

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    Yes! Exactly! I was a bit behind on this "story" and just read this piece to find that the alleged victim has "no recollection of the incident". That's astounding. There's a book out; Kav should be convicted in the court of public opinion; no crime can be corroborated; it was a LONG time ago; SURE, the NYT will run with it.
    They just took the play book from the Christine Blasey-Ford debacle and decided to re run it.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019...s-anti-kavanaugh-bombshell-is-actually-a-dud/

    Except this time even the woman that was supposed to have been involved says it didn’t happen.


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    I take neither political party’s views or policies (or any opinions) as gospel without challenging the assumptions. I genuflect to no one, yet you say I am the product of mass hypnosis because I won’t agree with you or the majority of other 2A supporters. Now who is brainwashed?
    You are apparently not capable of researching and/or comprehending.
     

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    The difference between Kavanaugh and Franken is that there was no corroborating witnesses or evidence against Kavanaugh, where there was witnesses and evidence of Franken's impropriety.
     
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