Airport security CHL TSA interaction anyone?

Can you imagine the embarrassment/trouble and logistics if the gun makes it through? and they catch it when you are in another country? Yikes!

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I am not gay but $20 is $20.

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Off body carry.......that’s why

Back in the early 90's, I had a loaded Glock 17 with two extra loaded magazines that I missed in my carry on backpack. The U.S. airport security missed it and it wasn't found until I reached my international destination. I was immediately arrested and put into a holding cell with some other people. After a few days(?) I was transferred to their federal penitentiary. The U.S. Embassy told me I would be there for a year before getting to trial. It sucked. There was no running water, you locked your own cell, fought frequently (but fortunately it was one on one). Eventually I was sentenced to 5 years for smuggling firearms but after some more time, that was changed to 5 years community service. The Embassy told me they had never heard of them doing this and that I had better leave the country while I had the chance and don't come back. Which is what I did. Ironically, this was a good thing that happened as at that time, I was not on a good path in life. It was a wake up call to say that if I didn't change my path, this is where I would be living (if not here, then somewhere else). I believe that my wife's family political connections are what enabled my sentence change. I did change my path because that is not where I wanted to be. From then on, my travel bags were only for travel and my range bags were only for the range. My company was kind enough to temporarily reassign me to a different crew when my assigned crew was working in that country.

Mozzi said:

Back in the early 90's, I had a loaded Glock 17 with two extra loaded magazines that I missed in my carry on backpack. The U.S. airport security missed it and it wasn't found until I reached my international destination. I was immediately arrested and put into a holding cell with some other people. After a few days(?) I was transferred to their federal penitentiary. The U.S. Embassy told me I would be there for a year before getting to trial. It sucked. There was no running water, you locked your own cell, fought frequently (but fortunately it was one on one). Eventually I was sentenced to 5 years for smuggling firearms but after some more time, that was changed to 5 years community service. The Embassy told me they had never heard of them doing this and that I had better leave the country while I had the chance and don't come back. Which is what I did. Ironically, this was a good thing that happened as at that time, I was not on a good path in life. It was a wake up call to say that if I didn't change my path, this is where I would be living (if not here, then somewhere else). I believe that my wife's family political connections are what enabled my sentence change. I did change my path because that is not where I wanted to be. From then on, my travel bags were only for travel and my range bags were only for the range. My company was kind enough to temporarily reassign me to a different crew when my assigned crew was working in that country.

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Damn. Just the thought of that gives me cold chills.

Randman said:

4:00 am, TSA pre-check, backpack scanned, backpack rescanned, TSA agent Call’s another one over “what do you see? It’s early and I want to make sure I’m not seeing things” as I stand and watch this begin to unfold. Enter APD, sir do you have any loaded or unloaded firearms in this backpack? Me: absolutely not. APD: do you own any firearms? Me: I own many firearms and the are locked up at home in my safe. APD begins to search backpack. As he pulls a holstered 9mm from my backpack, a panic begins to fall over me. My mouth opens wide, and I’m pretty sure I uttered “you’ve got to be fucking kidding me” APD: do you by chance have a CHL? Me: Yes sir. Hands CHL to Officer. APD: you are very lucky, law passed about a year ago allows for such a mistake. So we go downstairs, they run the firearm, all is good, small talk, then APD escorts me to the door and says have a nice day. I secure firearm in vehicle, go back to terminal and airline put me on a new flight, since I missed my scheduled flight. It takes a lot to shake me up, but this experience did it! Two weeks prior, the wife and I went on a road trip, so I threw the 9 in my backpack and forgot all about it. It happens, it can happen to you! This happened at the end of July, and I’ve flown twice since then, unfortunately on both flights No TSA pre-check on boarding pass. I have Global Entry which comes with TSA pre-check. I can only assume I’m being punished for my forgetful act. Anyone else make this kind of mistake, how was it handled? I’m wondering how long I’ll be in Pre-check jail.. you can bet I’ll never make that mistake again! Lesson Learned!

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Wow I could only imagine that nightmare, glad all is well and no further action was taken. I double check all bags I take to the airport just to make sure I have nothing firearm related unless I’m traveling with such gear!

One of the TSA feeds I get at work, worth reading if only to understand the amount of prohibited items found every week...

https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/08/15/tsa-week-review-august-5-11

Even better...as it is government press release, it shouldn't be an issue posting the entire article here; but I still had to truncate it due to its length. Full article at the link...

TSA Year in Review: A Record Setting 2018
Thursday, February 07, 2019

https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/02/07/tsa-year-review-record-setting-2018



It has been a milestone year for TSA as 2018 was marked by a record number of travelers and significant security enhancements. A total 813.8 million (813,791,287) passengers and crew members passed through TSA screening, with record-breaking screening numbers during the spring, Thanksgiving and summer travel periods. That’s over 2 million travelers a day and a 5.5 percent increase compared to 2017. These efforts are a testament to the coordination and collaboration between our industry partners and the hardworking men and women of TSA.

One of TSA’s significant accomplishments in 2018 was our work – in partnership with airports, airlines, and international partners – to complete the rollout of stronger carry-on screening procedures. Even more noteworthy was the signing of H.R. 302, FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018, which includes the TSA Modernization Act, that marked the first ever reauthorization of TSA since the agency’s founding in 2001. The reauthorization act empowers TSA to expand field operations and testing of advanced screening technologies, increase use of canine resources and enhance public area security. In addition, TSA released both its first ever Cybersecurity Roadmap that improves protections against cyberattacks on our transportation system and the Biometrics Roadmap, which will enable testing of new technology at airports. In coordination with our industry partners, we reached a significant milestone with the Known Crewmember® (KCM) program, clearing over 100 million crewmembers since its inception in 2011.

Throughout the year, TSA officers demonstrated great professionalism, dedication, integrity and remained committed to the mission to secure you – the traveling public. Thanks to their vigilance and skills, TSA officers intercepted a record number of firearms in 2018.

• A record setting 4,239 total firearms were discovered in carry-on bags at checkpoints across the country, averaging 81.6 firearms per week. That’s an average of 11.6 firearms per day.
• 3,656 (86.15 percent) of the total firearms discovered were loaded – another record.
• 1,432 (33.74 percent) of the total firearms discovered had a round chambered.
• The most firearms discovered in one month – a record setting 32 – were discovered in August at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.
• Firearms were intercepted at 249 of the 440 federalized airports.
• That’s more than a 7 percent (282 more) increase in firearm discoveries from 2017’s total of 3,957.

Firearm possession laws vary by state and locality. TSA may impose civil penalties of up to $13,333 per violation, per person for prohibited items violations and violations of other TSA regulations. Repeat violations will result in higher penalties. Travelers should familiarize themselves with state and local firearm laws for each point of travel prior to departure. Some airlines’ policies may differ from TSA’s. We strongly suggest travelers contact their airline for specific firearm and ammunition policies and check local laws related to the carrying and transport of firearms. If you plan to travel with your firearm, make sure you know the rules for packing it in your checked baggage.



Along with all the firearms we discovered, pictured above is a sample of some of the other prohibited items that we discovered this year.

Starting at the top left and moving clockwise:

• Three smoke grenades were discovered in a checked bag at Nashville International Airport on Nov. 19.
• An inert grenade was detected in a carry-on bag at McCarran International Airport on Nov. 27.
• A bottle of lighter fluid was discovered in a carry-on bag of a passenger traveling from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Dec. 12.
• Fireworks were discovered in the carry-on bag of a passenger traveling from Orlando International Airport on Dec. 13.
• Five replica mortar shells were discovered in the checked bag of an Orlando International Airport passenger on Dec. 1. We had to stop baggage screening operations until an explosives specialist could respond and declare the items safe.

majormadmax said:

One of the TSA feeds I get at work, worth reading if only to understand the amount of prohibited items found every week...

https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2019/08/15/tsa-week-review-august-5-11

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Looks like 3 on the same day at AUS, The Officer told me he had never seen two in one day, and they had just brought down the other guy as I was leaving. According to the blog there were 3 that day! I think we can safely blame it on Mercury retrograde!

A group could cause some major travel disruptions by exploiting the TSA. Coordinate a few delays across the country, and watch things grind to a halt. Surprised some environmentalists or con-trail conspiracy theorists haven't done it yet.

Renegade said:

It is not confidence, but preparation and routines. As mentioned, quarantine your travel bags, always empty then pack, always know where every gun you own is, check twice, then check again, etc.

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I like my way better, I don't fly, no wings.

do they auction the guns, or destroy them?

Three years ago after we moved to San Antonio I flew back to Michigan to drive a rental truck with all my ammo and firearms I had in storage there. I didn't check any firearms; but I did put three empty 1911 magazines in my back pack. Who knew? TSA is San Antonio acted offended that I dare to have "gun parts" in my back pack. During the confrontation the Duty SAPD Officer wandered over to listen to the "conversation". He looked at me and just shook his head from side to side at TSA's reaction. About six months later I received a civil penalty - which was the letter telling me I did wrong!

Last year on one of our trips to visit my son-in-law, his wife, and our granddaughter in Cancun I put my back pack on TSA's X-ray - negative, have a good day. At the airport in Cancun - just prior to leaving the secure area you are required to push a button - green light, have a good day; red light - luggage check. My lucky day - green light. As I was unpacking at the apartment - OMG - two live .45 ACP rounds. Whew damn lucky day!

I can neither confirm nor deny that they were lost in the mangroves on Isla Mujere! TSA would have been bad enough - but Mexico? I'd be lucky if my son-in-law could come see me on Visitor's Day!

Lesson learned, range bag only; travel back pack not range bag!

Ouch. It could have gone a lot worse. But that's why it's always important to check your gear before heading anywhere like that.

It's funny I've flown out of notoriously anti-gun areas, rhymes with Komifornia, I was expecting a lot of trouble or weird looks when checking in my gun in my pelican case. The guy at the counter was a retired cop and fellow gun enthusiast. He started telling me about his carry gun and that he had a 1911 just like mine.

cwo4uscgret said:

Three years ago after we moved to San Antonio I flew back to Michigan to drive a rental truck with all my ammo and firearms I had in storage there. I didn't check any firearms; but I did put three empty 1911 magazines in my back pack. Who knew? TSA is San Antonio acted offended that I dare to have "gun parts" in my back pack. During the confrontation the Duty SAPD Officer wandered over to listen to the "conversation". He looked at me and just shook his head from side to side at TSA's reaction. About six months later I received a civil penalty - which was the letter telling me I did wrong!

Last year on one of our trips to visit my son-in-law, his wife, and our granddaughter in Cancun I put my back pack on TSA's X-ray - negative, have a good day. At the airport in Cancun - just prior to leaving the secure area you are required to push a button - green light, have a good day; red light - luggage check. My lucky day - green light. As I was unpacking at the apartment - OMG - two live .45 ACP rounds. Whew damn lucky day!

I can neither confirm nor deny that they were lost in the mangroves on Isla Mujere! TSA would have been bad enough - but Mexico? I'd be lucky if my son-in-law could come see me on Visitor's Day!

Lesson learned, range bag only; travel back pack not range bag!

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That's funny that they still do the button for the light. I remember when I was a kid and we'd be visiting family down there we'd have to run through the same deal. I was always excited to push the button lol. It's been over 10 years since I've been down there though, I figured they wouldn't be doing that anymore.

Hoji said:

I travel a lot for work. So much that I have a dedicated travel backpack for flying( 5.11 72 hour rush) that sits in a giant zip lock bag in the closet and only leaves that container when I am packing for a flight.

I have 2 other 5.11 72 Hour Rush bags( different colors) one is my hunting bag and one is for when I am traveling by car. Neither of those will ever see the inside of an airport.

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That is a great idea I do a similar thing to make sure I am not taking anything with me to the airport that is not going to be taken from me or cause me issues.

Brains said:

A group could cause some major travel disruptions by exploiting the TSA. Coordinate a few delays across the country, and watch things grind to a halt. Surprised some environmentalists or con-trail conspiracy theorists haven't done it yet.

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Airline doesn’t care if your not at the gate.

CaptainMorgan9119 said:

Ouch. It could have gone a lot worse. But that's why it's always important to check your gear before heading anywhere like that.

It's funny I've flown out of notoriously anti-gun areas, rhymes with Komifornia, I was expecting a lot of trouble or weird looks when checking in my gun in my pelican case. The guy at the counter was a retired cop and fellow gun enthusiast. He started telling me about his carry gun and that he had a 1911 just like mine.

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Even in those anti gun areas you will always find others that are enthusiast's which is always awesome

Houston to Denver earlier this year. "sir do you have any bullets in there or something like that?" me while chasing after a one year old and in-laws "No, just a lot of electronics, it might be batteries" He looks some more "okay have a nice flight"... Get to Denver, unpack, pull out a fully loaded glock 19 mag. Oops. And here I thought I was hot stuff for forgetting that I have knives on me most of the time I go through.

jordanmills said:

Houston to Denver earlier this year. "sir do you have any bullets in there or something like that?" me while chasing after a one year old and in-laws "No, just a lot of electronics, it might be batteries" He looks some more "okay have a nice flight"... Get to Denver, unpack, pull out a fully loaded glock 19 mag. Oops. And here I thought I was hot stuff for forgetting that I have knives on me most of the time I go through.

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Carry on or checked?