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  • wakal

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    I would like to have the conservatives who ran for office actually show up IN the office, instead of the useless cuckservatives who appear as soon as the votes are tabulated. Looking at you, all-hat, no cattle Abbott, but all the rest of the faux Republicans as well. I expect worthless from anyone with a D, but am still dumb enough to be annoyed by Republican's sudden but inevitable betrayal.
     

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    I'm willing to give Abbott somewhat of a pass on this. I'm fairly confident he'll sign anything the Legislature sends. Sure, he could push harder for something like this but I understand why he'd want to save his capital for other things given how hard it was to get Strauss to move on anything gun related, and now Bonnen appears to be the same.

    As far as Patrick, I've heard him deliver some outstanding arguments in favor of both open carry and constitutional carry in non-legislative context interviews. I truly believe he gets it, and he's in a better position than Abbot, I think, to make gun issues a priority and push harder for them in the Senate at least. Perhaps he's made the same calculations - that heretofore it was a waste because Strauss would block anything, and maybe he's still feeling out Bonnen. Of course, that hasn't stopped him for pushing other pet issues destined to fail, like school choice and the bathroom thing. So I don't know, I get it but I'm not as willing to give Patrick a pass.
     

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    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_mo...uri-moves-ban-federal-gun-control-laws-state/

    This is how you do it. Thank you, Missouri.

    I need to send a copy of this to Bonnen. We all do. TEXAS should be taking the lead on this.

    btw, they've had constitutional carry since 2017. We won't get it this year and likely never will.

    HB238 is the same/similar in this session. It’s been sitting as “left pending” in Pancho’s Homeland Security and Public Safety Committee since 2/27.
     

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    I applaud the effort, but if passed it will most likely be killed quickly in federal courts.


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    sudden but inevitable betrayal
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    Dash Riprock

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    I see it as the same as some states having legal marijuana as their laws.
    What are the Feds doing in California, Washington & Colorado to the pot shops????
    Exactly. It is exactly the same a the states that legalized marijuana. You can't support that and oppose this., and the feds cannot treat them differently
     

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    Exactly. It is exactly the same a the states that legalized marijuana. You can't support that and oppose this., and the feds cannot treat them differently

    I’m not supporting one over the other and I do believe the feds “can” treat them differently. At least until federal courts say otherwise.

    Also, MJ laws don’t criminalize federal enforcement of federal laws.


    I’m not against the law in question. I just see it only going 1 of 2 ways. Maybe 3.


    I’ll add that I don’t like the feds simply not enforcing MJ laws. The laws should either be enforced or repealed. No different than choosing not to enforce immigration law. Shouldn’t be an option.


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    Dash Riprock

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    I agree, if you have a law it should be enforced. But if the feds are going to let states pick and choose which laws to follow, I'll be damned if I'm only going to let the left pick.
     

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    I agree, if you have a law it should be enforced. But if the feds are going to let states pick and choose which laws to follow, I'll be damned if I'm only going to let the left pick.

    To be clear, Colorado isn’t choosing to not follow the law. Each state is independent and can make many things legal or illegal regardless of Fed law.

    The Feds are simply picking and choosing which of their own laws will be enforced. Colorado has done nothing that I’m aware of to prohibit federal LE from enforcing federal drug laws. That is what makes the pro gun legislation very different.

    A better example is that suppressors are not illegal in Texas and not required to be registered (from my memory this was passed in the last legislative session. I’m sure I will be scolded if wrong). We are still required to follow all federal laws that apply or risk our dogs being shot.

    The feds obviously are picking and choosing which laws they will enforce. I don’t think they will willingly allow a state to dictate that choice for them.




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    The feds obviously are picking and choosing which laws they will enforce.

    Congress told DOJ not to enforce after Sessions did away with the Cole Memo.

    https://www.thompsoncoburn.com/insi...ent-included-in-omnibus-fy-2018-spending-bill

    Though a locality may arrest you on a federal offense, you get prosecuted by the feds, which is where the Cole Memo and the Rohrbacher Amendment come into play. Congress cannot compel localities to enforce federal laws unless they require localities to enact comparable statutes.
     

    Younggun

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    Congress told DOJ not to enforce after Sessions did away with the Cole Memo.

    https://www.thompsoncoburn.com/insi...ent-included-in-omnibus-fy-2018-spending-bill

    Though a locality may arrest you on a federal offense, you get prosecuted by the feds, which is where the Cole Memo and the Rohrbacher Amendment come into play. Congress cannot compel localities to enforce federal laws unless they require localities to enact comparable statutes.

    That amendment is only applicable to medical MJ. It provides no protections for recreational use which the feds are still letting slide.

    Also, Congress is still choosing not to enforce federal law, feds picking and choosing. The actual laws regulating MJ use should change if they don’t was to enforce them. Doesn’t mean they will, just what I think should happen.


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