Home Defense Against Aerial Drones

[baboon]

Do you mean the Russians? It's the Ukrainians who are using commercial drones to target Russian forces, with a lot of success so far but that will be coming to an end in the very near future as the Chinese-made drones they are using have vulnerabilities the Russians will soon be able to exploit.

More importantly, that is a war zone and all bets are off. Trying to do the same will mean not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no, you're going to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison!

And for the suggestion of electronic jammers, that will end the same way!

I stand corrected. Since doubling up on my pain killers my brain has entered the cloud forest.

 

[Rhino]

This made me wonder what would be the best defense against such things attacking one's home.

The best defense is that which was revealed to Gehazi after Elisha's prayer.

 

[Coiled]

The FAA requires all UAVs be registered before they take flight.

except those that weigh 0.55 pounds or less (less than 250 grams) and are flown exclusively under the Exception for Recreational Flyers.


More absurd government overreach fun facts here:

https://www.faa.gov/uas

 

[seeker_two]

Hope the FAA agents realize that the anti-aircraft weaponry also works on ground targets....

 

[Grumps21]

What size and how high is said drone flying? If it’s a consumer camera drone playing peeping Tom and hovering 30ft above your back porch, there’s got to be some sort of law against that. They have a ceiling they could fly to, but is there a floor to consider as well when going over private property the pilot does not own? I’d say knock it out of the air with a fire hose and high pressure water.

 

[Rhino]

What size and how high is said drone flying? If it’s a consumer camera drone playing peeping Tom and hovering 30ft above your back porch, there’s got to be some sort of law against that. They have a ceiling they could fly to, but is there a floor to consider as well when going over private property the pilot does not own? I’d say knock it out of the air with a fire hose and high pressure water.

If they are "over" your property, more than likely they are actually filming your neighbor's house for sale. Best look at where the camera is actually pointed, although the truth is, I often use the camera to make sure I'm avoiding a collision with a tree, then rotate the drone in place to get the photo I'm actually trying to get, and I'm definitely NOT spying on you, because you just aren't that interesting.
I can also fly a helicopter at 100' over your house legally. Best not presume anything and harm the vehicle.

 

[majormadmax]

What size and how high is said drone flying? If it’s a consumer camera drone playing peeping Tom and hovering 30ft above your back porch, there’s got to be some sort of law against that. They have a ceiling they could fly to, but is there a floor to consider as well when going over private property the pilot does not own? I’d say knock it out of the air with a fire hose and high pressure water.

There are ramifications for illegal use, but it's still not justification for shooting or knocking it down.

Doing so will result in greater legal issues for you than the drone operator!

 

[striker55]

Uh oh I got a Bass Pro shop copter with a camera for Christmas. Checking it out this morning, can fly and take pictures. I better keep out of trouble.

 

[TheDan]

In the video below Billionaire Aeronautical Engineer Mike Saylor says the future of tribal warfare is automated drones; small, cheap ones, produced by the thousands.

This made me wonder what would be the best defense against such things attacking one's home.

I'm thinking a high-speed, full-auto .22 mini-gun on every side of the house. .22 caliber is cheap, and light-weight. After WROL, such a thing could be made in most home shops. They could employ DeWalt lithium-ion battery packs to power the small electric motor.

I don't think 12 gauge has the range necessary to knock down those things far enough from one's house. 5.56 is too expensive. They only need to get within 20 yards for their shrapnel and/or napalm to be effective.

Oh I definitely want my own personal CWIS, but I don't think .22lr is reliable enough for building a home grown one. Electronic jamming would be much more practical.

I think the most important thing is being able to detect incoming drones. You have to detect it to deploy any countermeasures, plus if all you had was detection you could at least take cover and unass the area.

 

[bbbass]

An antidote to "killer drones"...


This is the answer you seek:

 

[Moonpie]

Surf fishing rod and a 2oz weight.
Cast over it.

 

[etmo]

Eagle-eyed: Dutch police to train birds to take down unauthorised drones

Police have joined forces with Guard From Above, a raptor-training security firm based in Denmark, to keep wayward drones from causing trouble

www.theguardian.com

"Police have joined forces with Guard From Above, a raptor-training security firm based in the Hague, to keep wayward drones from causing trouble"

Nature provides the answer?

 

[John Sam Rayburn]

I don't think .22lr is reliable enough for building a home grown one. Electronic jamming would be much more practical.

I have to disagree. The new A.I. drones are autonomous, self-piloted like Michael Saylor talks about in the video.

Electronic jamming is only effective for severing the data link between the drone and the Pilot.

The only counter-measure I can think of for home defense is a mini-gun .22 "wall of lead" similar to what U.S. Navy ships use to stop hyper-fast Chinese missles that skim along the surface.

I don't think detection will be difficult as the Chinese drones in this video are noisy, and we could see the heat of their electric motors with thermal scopes...

 

[benenglish]

I have to disagree. The new A.I. drones are autonomous, self-piloted like Michael Saylor talks about in the video.

I've read accounts from people who seemed credible that electronic jamming seems to work about half the time.

But I'm not diving down that rabbit hole. I don't have enough years left to learn enough to speak with any authority.

 

[John Sam Rayburn]

I've read accounts from people who seemed credible that electronic jamming seems to work about half the time.

What electronic fuction are they jamming?

 

[oldag]

But I'm not diving down that rabbit hole.

 

[benenglish]

What electronic fuction are they jamming?

No idea. I was just agreeing with your assessment that electronic countermeasures are probably not reliable.

 

[TheDan]

I have to disagree. The new A.I. drones are autonomous, self-piloted like Michael Saylor talks about in the video.

Electronic jamming is only effective for severing the data link between the drone and the Pilot.

Need to jam GPS, GLONASS, and other positioning systems too.

The only counter-measure I can think of for home defense is a mini-gun .22 "wall of lead" similar to what U.S. Navy ships use to stop hyper-fast Chinese missles that skim along the surface.

Yep, CIWS. I'd love to see a .22lr gatling gun firing 4000 rds/min.

I don't think detection will be difficult as the Chinese drones in this video are noisy, and we could see the heat of their electric motors with thermal scopes...

Once they are a couple hundred feet in the air it's pretty hard to see and hear them, and if they are coming in to just drop a grenade on you they can be in and out before you can spot it.

The detection system needs to be autonomous and combining multiple detection methods to make sure it spots the drone before it gets to you. Your CIWS type countermeasures also need to use the detection system to triangulate the drone's position.

 

[oldag]

What electronic fuction are they jamming?

Probably just the command communication from the controller.

 

[John Sam Rayburn]

The detection system needs to be autonomous and combining multiple detection methods to make sure it spots the drone before it gets to you.

You make a good point, and that is true, but I just don't think automated detection of possible after Without Rule of Law (WROL).

Supply lines will be down. I will only be able to use whatever computers I have on hand (7 crap ones). Electricity to run them for monitoring 24/7 will be precious. Full-time monitoring with cheap USB webcams will be impossible.

I abide K.I.S.S. I'm thinking a point-and-shoot machine on each side of the house. An electrical mini Gatlin-gun that just sprays for 15 seconds to knock them down. Something my Daughter can aim, and then a push a button.