“VIGILANTISM”, anyone ?

[Steve In Texas]

Vigilantism served well when & where there WAS NO “law”.

I would translate that to be: The effects of vigilantism were sufficiently horrifying and unjust enough that people tolerate the known bad effects of government where they believe they can have due process.

 

[Eastexasrick]

Well Steve, that is so damn prophetic, all I can say is, damn Steve.

 

[leVieux]

What other effective way would you have suggested for our frontier Ancestors ?

 

[Sam7sf]

Bashing vigilantism is illogical. Some people need beating. Some people need killing. Some people need justice.

Of course it can be evil. However look at all the criminals who don’t care and do horrible things and pay off le/politicians.

I don’t care if someone is wronged and they feel the need to remove trash. Thanks. I’ll buy the guy lunch while the system plays with its little pee pee and talks a big game.

 

[leVieux]

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Our ancestors saw vigilantism as necessary on the “lawless” frontier.

Now, we have lawlessness of politically driven type, in which dishonesty and perversion of the legal system via tyranny run rampant.

What are We the People to do?

Watch our cities, homes, & businesses burn because some feel slighted ?

Answer, Please !

leVieux
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[seeker_two]

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Our ancestors saw vigilantism as necessary on the “lawless” frontier.

Now, we have lawlessness of politically driven type, in which dishonesty and perversion of the legal system via tyranny run rampant.

What are We the People to do?

Watch our cities, homes, & businesses burn because some feel slighted ?

Answer, Please !

leVieux
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Vigilantism = Self-defense.

 

[leVieux]

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Recall that every tyranny throughout all Human History has claimed to be a. legitimate government.

Our domestic enemies have gamed our system and its mechanisms to subvert & over-rule the WILL of the People.

Today we suffer a corrupt oligarchical TYRANNY, which replaced the longstanding Constitutional “democratic” Republic of the USA.

leVieux
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[Wiliamr]

Is it time for the Texas Gun Talk Vigilance Committee?

 

[leVieux]

Is it time for the Texas Gun Talk Vigilance Committee?

It is time for all to THINK about our plans for surviving a deteriorating tyrannical national government.

 

[MountainGirl]

Is it time for the Texas Gun Talk Vigilance Committee?

There's a Committee?

 

[jrbfishn]

Where there is no Law or Law Enforcement by those charged with enforcing said Laws, there are but two choices.
Submit to subjugation of the lawless,
Vigalence committees.
I refuse to be a subject.

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[MountainGirl]

Where there is no Law or Law Enforcement by those charged with enforcing said Laws, there are but two choices.
Submit to subjugation of the lawless,
Vigalence committees.
I refuse to be a subject.

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I'll take door #3, Monty.

The trouble with committees - and I'd guess moreso with ones of this purpose - is some one, or some group, always rises to the top; with varying degrees of success taking control - and none of it pretty.

Corrupt nat'l govt - far away
Corrupt state govt - closer
Corrupt local govt - even closer
Corrupt local committee - actually the most dangerous, imo, because you're within their immediate range...and therefore subject to their decisions.

It's one thing to be part of a group for self-defensive purposes - it's quite another to band together to mete out committee-decided justice. I'll pass.

 

[cycleguy2300]

That is, I think, the problem with most Americans, they refuse to do anything for out country, its citizens, our neighbors and the like - respectfully or otherwise. They only want the country to do for them. What a sad state of affairs is that - just look at the mess we are in because of that attitude.

They are happy to live with the consequences of others serving others and the State and the Nation, but are to selfish or cowardly to do it themselves.

You need not be a soldier or elected officer to serve, being a good, fair and honest employer who makes as much money as he legally can, and pays his employees fairly and honestly as well.

Refusing to serve your nation, the collection of peoples you abide with, is as foolish as refusing to husband the members of your own family.

Not everyone can serve in the same capacity and in much is a matter of the heart, but it is ironic someone with an image of two of the most selfless servant leaders of our nations history who fully devoted themselves to the service of others, one to the point of death,, would belittle and perhaps brag about not serving others.

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[cycleguy2300]

Bashing vigilantism is illogical. Some people need beating. Some people need killing. Some people need justice.

Of course it can be evil. However look at all the criminals who don’t care and do horrible things and pay off le/politicians.

I don’t care if someone is wronged and they feel the need to remove trash. Thanks. I’ll buy the guy lunch while the system plays with its little pee pee and talks a big game.

There is a difference between justice and vengeance.

There is a difference between some, even if rough hewn and course, justice and the usurpation of law in the form of vigilantism.

I wish citizens would use the authority they HAVE under the law to take immediate action , including deadly force, against criminals in the act.

I think there are a more crimes that should be capitol offenses and that the prosecution should be required to seek the death penalty in the vast majority of those cases. I am in favor of corporal punishments for many other crimes, not for the joy of causing another pain, but allowing small crimes to corrected without having to stay in jail so the offender can return to his family and job I think would be in the interests of both society and justice.

Vigilantism is rebellion against law disguised as justice. It is a terrible and horrible thing and devolves into lynch mobs and men killing each over perceived slights. It is not something to wish for.

Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord... There is no perfect justice here on earth. Until we are before the great white throne, there will be no perfect justice and that justice will be aweful and terrifying. Don't take authority that has not been given to you.

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[leVieux]

They are happy to live with the consequences of others serving others and the State and the Nation, but are to selfish or cowardly to do it themselves.

You need not be a soldier or elected officer to serve, being a good, fair and honest employer who makes as much money as he legally can, and pays his employees fairly and honestly as well.

Refusing to serve your nation, the collection of peoples you abide with, is as foolish as refusing to husband the members of your own family.

Not everyone can serve in the same capacity and in much is a matter of the heart, but it is ironic someone with an image of two of the most selfless servant leaders of our nations history who fully devoted themselves to the service of others, one to the point of death,, would belittle and perhaps brag about not serving others.

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“The FALL of Rome” ?

 

[cycleguy2300]

“The FALL of Rome” ?

When we stop taking care of our house it will begin to crumble...

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[Catherine1]

A very few...apparently, don't own and have no plans to own...a so-called 'smart phone'.

You couldn't give me one...

We don't even have a dumb cellular telephone.

I still have the SAME home telephone - land line.

I had it installed here when I built this small house in MT several years ago.

I had one way, way UP in the Sapphire Mountains in that tiny log cabin butt up to the wilderness.

I had one at the newly built apartment while I built this house here in town.

I had one back in farm/lake country (Boonies - Great Lakes.) and on the East Coast too.

We discussed this on another forum several years ago.

There are many places IN this town and even all over this state - where a cellular telephone gets very BAD reception and in those other more remote places - you get NO reception at all.

Take care!

Cate

 

[Wiliamr]

There's a Committee?

Aren't you the Chair?

 

[leVieux]

When we stop taking care of our house it will begin to crumble...

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AMEN !

“Universal Suffrage” has killed every Nation which has adopted it !

 

[MountainGirl]

Aren't you the Chair?

Hell, I'm not even a footstool.