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  • Dawico

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    One of my best range days ever was out at Vaq's, with Dawico trying to shoot a plate with a garbage .22 pistol at 200 yards. He hit it frequently. I didn't, but had a world of fun.
    Are you calling my Zip gun garbage? Is that because you can't hit anything with it?

    Keep in mind that non-feeding bastard won a round on the dueling tree too.
     

    benenglish

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    short range silhouette was fun, but I think it was limited to straight walled pistol cartridges, and was half the distance of the IHMSA range.
    Yep, but IHMSA did have a match that was nearly identical to the NRA 100-yard silhouette match, standing up with straight-walled cartridges. For many years, the Texas state championship for both disciplines was shot at the same time on the same course because the rules were so close to each other.
    the .357 mag was very effective. I imagine the .32 H&R would have been,
    Yeah. I'm not sure if the NRA ever did it but for the longest time the cartridge for the IHMSA 100-yard course was .22 Hornet. It had just enough oomph knock everything down and was cheaper to reload and more accurate than a .22 WMR. I sometimes shot the course with a .22LR; I knew I'd ring most rams and lose a few other targets but it sure was fun.

    Late in the life of IHMSA, they approved the .25-20 for the 100-yard game, even though it, like the Hornet, wasn't exactly a straight-walled case.

    I am firmly of the opinion that if that approval had come many years earlier, the Hornet would be a dead cartridge today and we'd occasionally still find boxes of .25-20 in gun shops.
     

    hornetguy

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    I've always liked the thought of the 25-20, but I've never owned or shot one.
    Seems like a handi rifle in that caliber would be the berries....
     

    TreyG-20

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    Yep, but IHMSA did have a match that was nearly identical to the NRA 100-yard silhouette match, standing up with straight-walled cartridges. For many years, the Texas state championship for both disciplines was shot at the same time on the same course because the rules were so close to each other.

    Yeah. I'm not sure if the NRA ever did it but for the longest time the cartridge for the IHMSA 100-yard course was .22 Hornet. It had just enough oomph knock everything down and was cheaper to reload and more accurate than a .22 WMR. I sometimes shot the course with a .22LR; I knew I'd ring most rams and lose a few other targets but it sure was fun.

    Late in the life of IHMSA, they approved the .25-20 for the 100-yard game, even though it, like the Hornet, wasn't exactly a straight-walled case.

    I am firmly of the opinion that if that approval had come many years earlier, the Hornet would be a dead cartridge today and we'd occasionally still find boxes of .25-20 in gun shops.
    I shot in the NRA matches at ARC and Dietz when I was a kid. .22 hornet was the cartridge of choice for the afternoon matches with heavier animals. Although some used 30 carbine. I used a .22 mag because that's what I had. Everyone had Contenders from what I remember. We all used the .22lr in the morning matches though as that was the rule for the lighter animals. I was using a Buckmark for that. I miss those matches. Always had a blast even though everyone smoked me. I was a B shooter then while everyone else was AA or AAA.
     

    hornetguy

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    Or.... even better.... the .256 Win Mag.... at least you could get/make ammo for it easily, and it's quite a bit more "zippy" than the 25-20.

    Midway had 25-20 ammo for sale.... just over $100 for 50 rounds... :eek:
     

    striker55

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    I had some IHMSA steel chicken's, I was shooting at them at 50 yards with a 44 mag revolver. A guy was shooting his 22.250 and asked if he could shoot one. It put a crater in it, it was 1/2" soft steel. Back side of the chicken was bulged.
     

    benenglish

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    put a crater in it
    Speed kills steel.

    In the early days, when everybody was using soft steel, 50-yard chickens were intimidating. Bullet splashback from cratered targets was a constant and sometimes painful reality.

    Now that most people have AR500 steel, standard cup and core bullets won't cause damage below 2400 fps at impact and some folks say 2600 is fine.

    But a .22-250 rifle at 50 yards on soft steel? I'm surprised that bullet didn't whistle straight through. :)
     

    hornetguy

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    Yes.... back in my IHMSA days, the 200 meter rams all had holes in them from the .308 Unlimited "handguns".... the owner of the range was not happy...
     

    benenglish

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    Yes.... back in my IHMSA days, the 200 meter rams all had holes in them from the .308 Unlimited "handguns".... the owner of the range was not happy...

    One IHMSA club in Alaska (iirc) went to considerable expense to install inverted railroad rail as the stands for their rams at 200 meters.

    Some asswipe (this was long before remote cameras could have helped) made it his personal mission to destroy that rail. He shot a .50 BMG rifle from the benches and poked holes in that rail until the flat upper separated from the base. It took him hundreds of rounds to cause thousands of dollars in damage.

    Some people just shouldn't be trusted with firearms, I suppose.
     

    benenglish

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    I've always liked the thought of the 25-20, but I've never owned or shot one.
    That cartridge will always have a place in my heart. The first center-fire rifle I ever shot was an ancient .25-20 levergun.
     

    striker55

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    Speed kills steel.

    In the early days, when everybody was using soft steel, 50-yard chickens were intimidating. Bullet splashback from cratered targets was a constant and sometimes painful reality.

    Now that most people have AR500 steel, standard cup and core bullets won't cause damage below 2400 fps at impact and some folks say 2600 is fine.

    But a .22-250 rifle at 50 yards on soft steel? I'm surprised that bullet didn't whistle straight through. :)
    I had 4 T-1 steel and one soft. One range I shot at people did get a ricochet, I remember a guy got hit on his hand.
     

    Coyote9

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    Yep, but IHMSA did have a match that was nearly identical to the NRA 100-yard silhouette match, standing up with straight-walled cartridges. For many years, the Texas state championship for both disciplines was shot at the same time on the same course because the rules were so close to each other.

    Yeah. I'm not sure if the NRA ever did it but for the longest time the cartridge for the IHMSA 100-yard course was .22 Hornet. It had just enough oomph knock everything down and was cheaper to reload and more accurate than a .22 WMR. I sometimes shot the course with a .22LR; I knew I'd ring most rams and lose a few other targets but it sure was fun.

    Late in the life of IHMSA, they approved the .25-20 for the 100-yard game, even though it, like the Hornet, wasn't exactly a straight-walled case.

    I am firmly of the opinion that if that approval had come many years earlier, the Hornet would be a dead cartridge today and we'd occasionally still find boxes of .25-20 in gun shops.
    I still shoot my Winchester 92 in 25-20 and 32-20 (takedown with two barrels) the 2520 is a clover leaf shooter at 50 meters the 32-20 not so much Rifle has set rigger and scheutzen buttplate with tang diopter sight
     
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