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  • AKM47

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    When budget enters the chat, clarity and tracking is what matters, not sfp or ffp
    Her are some that fit his/the criteria

    Monstrum Alpha Series 1-6x24 First Focal Plane scope
    NightStar 1-6X24IRF First Focal Plane Rifle Scope
    Sniper VT1-6X24FFP Scope

    Let me know what you think of these before I send them to him
     

    Txhillbilly

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    He hunts big game with a 308 and he uses a SFP scope, for the AR he needs a FFP

    I got to just ask, Why does he need a FFP scope? For most people that use a lower magnification scope on an AR, the focal plane really doesn't matter for the general ranges they are used for. If used for longer range work, most SFP scopes reticles are true at maximum magnification, and if you're using a 1-6x or 1-8x scope, you are most likely to have it turned to max when shooting at longer ranges.

    In most cases at lower magnification ranges of FFP scopes, the reticle scales are almost impossible to see in most backgrounds.
    For hunting, almost all of my scopes are SFP. All of my Long Range gun's have FFP scopes.
     

    AKM47

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    I got to just ask, Why does he need a FFP scope? For most people that use a lower magnification scope on an AR, the focal plane really doesn't matter for the general ranges they are used for. If used for longer range work, most SFP scopes reticles are true at maximum magnification, and if you're using a 1-6x or 1-8x scope, you are most likely to have it turned to max when shooting at longer ranges.

    In most cases at lower magnification ranges of FFP scopes, the reticle scales are almost impossible to see in most backgrounds.
    For hunting, almost all of my scopes are SFP. All of my Long Range gun's have FFP scopes.
    I'll find out
     

    zackmars

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    Her are some that fit his/the criteria

    Monstrum Alpha Series 1-6x24 First Focal Plane scope
    NightStar 1-6X24IRF First Focal Plane Rifle Scope
    Sniper VT1-6X24FFP Scope

    Let me know what you think of these before I send them to him
    Since buying an ACOG is out of the question...

    Consider the following, cheap LPVO's do not perform well at 1x or 6x, 8x, or 10x. They get dark, don't track well, and have horribly tight eye boxes.

    If you must have an LPVO, ditch the FFP requirement. If you are shooting the the point you need FFP, you need good-er glass.

    Consider a vortex crossfire II. Buy from a reputable company, primary arms also might have something.

    Or look at a fixed optic, perhaps even a red dot (or irons)
     

    zackmars

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    Here's what he told me

    With big game it's no problem targeting with a fixed reticle, with small game a larger reticle helps with targeting
    He is using .223/5.56? Unless he's got some 24" bull barrel he's not, or at least shouldn't be, shooting far enough to need FFP.

    ESPECIALLY when we are talking budget optics.

    FFP won't help when the optic is too dark to judge range or what you are even looking at.

    If he wants magnification, Get this

    Get this If he wants an LPVO

    Get some halfway decent rings
     

    Sam7sf

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    Yup...get good rings. For bolt guns I run steel two screw rings from leupold. Worth every penny. Not one issue. Ar wise I still use leupold.

    For an lpvo I’m happy with my leupold.
     

    AKM47

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    He is using .223/5.56? Unless he's got some 24" bull barrel he's not, or at least shouldn't be, shooting far enough to need FFP.

    ESPECIALLY when we are talking budget optics.

    FFP won't help when the optic is too dark to judge range or what you are even looking at.

    If he wants magnification, Get this

    Get this If he wants an LPVO

    Get some halfway decent rings
    How about these
    Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40 Rifle Scope, Dead-Hold BDC Reticle CF2-31007
    Ade Advanced Optics 1-6x28
    Bushnell Nitro rifle scope 2.5-10x44
    Will check on the SWFA SS 10x42 MOA
     

    zackmars

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    How about these
    Vortex Crossfire II 3-9x40 Rifle Scope, Dead-Hold BDC Reticle CF2-31007
    Ade Advanced Optics 1-6x28
    Bushnell Nitro rifle scope 2.5-10x44
    Will check on the SWFA SS 10x42 MOA
    Of those 3, I'd go vortex, only because they will stand behind their product.

    Bushnell might be ok, but i have no experience with that model.

    The SWFA SS is a combat proven optic and a great value. They lacks some bells and whistles, but those cost extra
     

    zackmars

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    Understand that a fixed 10 power is very limiting, but assuming you want to stay at $200 or less, you will have to make sacrifices to still have a useable optic

    A fixed 10x will be a lot better than a Chinese 1-6 that can't hold zero
     

    AKM47

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    Of those 3, I'd go vortex, only because they will stand behind their product.

    Bushnell might be ok, but i have no experience with that model.

    The SWFA SS is a combat proven optic and a great value. They lacks some bells and whistles, but those cost extra
    Did some research on the SWFA SS 10x42 MOA and I noticed it uses MRAD and not 1/4 or 1/2 MOA turrets which he is used to
     

    zackmars

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    https://www.swfa.com/swfa-ss-10x42-tactical-30mm-riflescope-6.html
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