I hope he didn't get it from a tan guy doing his laundry at the gym.
Cause they bout to be tred upon.
Colleyville TX swat deployment at the Beth Israel Synagogue.
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Cause they bout to be tred upon.
Another crime that shouldn’t be a crime. Either he paid his debt to society or not. If he’s free, he should have all the rights of a free man.Feds charge gun seller. He was a prohibited person to begin with. Felon in possession.
I wonder if they will go after who sold him the gun.
Colleyville synagogue standoff: Man who allegedly sold gun to suspect charged by feds
Henry "Michael" Williams was charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm after authorities say he sold the weapon that Maisal Akram used to hold a rabbi and three others hostage for hours.www.fox4news.com
Cat got your tongue?
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The Right to self defense should only be taken away when incarcerated. If he has been released it should be because he has paid his dues and is restored. Does he lose his 1st Amendment rights? If not, then why his 2nd?
Well, donate to his defense fund. We will probably be paying for it anyways.
Not that I disagree with you, to a point. Details not in evidence limit the ability to fully discuss the situation in whole.
In general if they are to dangerous to be allowed a gun they should stay in prison. But that ain't the world we live in.
Not that I disagree with you, to a point. Details not in evidence limit the ability to fully discuss the situation in whole.
In general if they are to dangerous to be allowed a gun they should stay in prison. But that ain't the world we live in.
Ok, so they are saying feds say you cannot acquire or sell a firearm - but how do they rectify that with Texas law that allows felons to possess firearms after 5 years? They would have to acquire the firearm. They can't buy from an FFL because they're prohibited persons, but Texas law does seem to allow them to obtain said firearm through a private sale.
This issue was brought to light with the Cody Wilson thing - he is Federally prohibited, but the state still allows him his gun rights. State agent confirmed he's legal to own / build firearms still. He can't carry because he's DQ'd from both LTC and permitless carry because of his legal troubles but he can still possess.
If Williams, in this case, was too dangerous to be allowed his gun rights - he's too dangerous to be on the street, period. @candcallen is right - its not how things are, but it is how it should be, and it *was* until 1968 when the GCA created "prohibited persons"
This really goes back to a more systemic issue which is our criminal justice system is piss poor. It doesn't rehabilitate those who can be (minor offenses) and those who are absolutely too dangerous to be on the streets are let out with smaller sentences.
My brother worked in the largest prison in Texas for 8 years in the High Security section (yes one brother adopted was IN prison while the other worked at another prison. Life has irony) and he said all prisons in Texas are crime universities. Once you get into the system the chance of getting out of the system is impossible or near impossible.
The problem is there is so much money tied to the criminal justice system and law enforcement no one will give up what they're making for the good of the people.
My brother worked in the largest prison in Texas for 8 years in the High Security section (yes one brother adopted was IN prison while the other worked at another prison. Life has irony) and he said all prisons in Texas are crime universities. Once you get into the system the chance of getting out of the system is impossible or near impossible.
The problem is there is so much money tied to the criminal justice system and law enforcement no one will give up what they're making for the good of the people.
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It’s part of the punishment. You want the Constitution to be a living document also? You don’t like it, work to change the law. I don’t give a damn about what you “ feel “ should happen.Until the law is changed .Then I I will abide by it.
Many American Jews are urbanites, favor largest cities. They, just like most current American urbanites, are BRAINWASHED into liberalism.
I coached & watched the conversion of a highly-educated northeastern Jew Friend; from an always-voting left Yankee into a conservative, NRA Life-member, boots & jeans, gun-owning, 4WD driving, Texan with an LSU Alum Wife.
We have so much to do and have such powerful "domestic enemies".
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Where does it say your rights can be stripped for life if you're not incarcerated? Seems kind of "living document" like right there, because until 1968 those out of jail could legally buy, possess and carry weapons (where carrying was legal). Constitution doesn't need changed - just adhered to. All gun laws are infringements. Every. Single. One.
Laws have changed since 1968. Doesn’t mean they are unconstitutional. Felons can’t possess a firearm. Blood alcohol for a DWI has gone from .2 to .08. Neither of them has been declared unconstitutional.I haven’t meet a person that didn’t know that if were convicted of a felony that you lost your right to own or carry a gun. Do a crime and suffer the consequences.The laws are very clear.
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Once they have served their time either in prison or on probation, that should be the end of it and their 2nd Amendment rights restored. No one should be punished for life, unless they are serving it in prison. People make stupid mistakes, and some of them are even criminal, but people deserve a second chance, and deserve the right to defend themselves just like anyone else, yourself included.
Just because a Court has not said they are un-Constitutional does not mean they are Constitutional. It just means it has not been brought before them or they decided not to hear the case.
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"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
Nothing in those thirteen words says "unless you've hit your wife, been caught with drugs, driven drunk, stolen something, perpetuated fraud, or any other thing the government sends you to prison for"
Also baked into our nation's laws is the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment - taking one's rights away for life, while they're not incarcerated could certainly be argued as an unusual punishment and cruel because it makes second class citizens out of them.
Just because the Supreme Court hasn't taken up a case doesn't mean a law is just, right, or Constitutional, and even SCOTUS gets shit wrong because as much as we want them to be the impartial arbiters of law and justice - politics plays a hand. Obamacare - sold by the President and the Congress as "Not a Tax" despite its individual mandates - could've been struck down by the court. Instead, Roberts and his pals became activist justices in that measure and declared - despite what we'd been told by Congress and the President - that the individual mandate was a tax, and thus constitutional and we were stuck with that shit until Donald Trump was able to push to have that shit removed.
"Shall not be infringed" are the most ignored, maligned, or misunderstood words found anywhere in any of the documents that make up our foundation of this nation. Its a simple phrase, and people do all sorts of mental gymnastics over them to try and say that it doesn't really mean what it says.
All gun laws are infringements, period.
Nothing in those thirteen words says "unless you've hit your wife, been caught with drugs, driven drunk, stolen something, perpetuated fraud, or any other thing the government sends you to prison for"
Also baked into our nation's laws is the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment - taking one's rights away for life, while they're not incarcerated could certainly be argued as an unusual punishment and cruel because it makes second class citizens out of them.
Just because the Supreme Court hasn't taken up a case doesn't mean a law is just, right, or Constitutional, and even SCOTUS gets shit wrong because as much as we want them to be the impartial arbiters of law and justice - politics plays a hand. Obamacare - sold by the President and the Congress as "Not a Tax" despite its individual mandates - could've been struck down by the court. Instead, Roberts and his pals became activist justices in that measure and declared - despite what we'd been told by Congress and the President - that the individual mandate was a tax, and thus constitutional and we were stuck with that shit until Donald Trump was able to push to have that shit removed.
"Shall not be infringed" are the most ignored, maligned, or misunderstood words found anywhere in any of the documents that make up our foundation of this nation. Its a simple phrase, and people do all sorts of mental gymnastics over them to try and say that it doesn't really mean what it says.
All gun laws are infringements, period.
To be fair, not taking a side just an observation, driving is not an enumerated right. There is, or should be, a much higher bar to effect such enumerated rights. Not the same as the rules of the road.
Now, kinda taking a side I guess, you lose such rights by your actions and punishment. You should just as easily and quickly get them back.
Again, an observation. That's not the world we live in anymore. The problem with law abiding citizens is they abide by the law till they are well and truly phucked then were shooting at each other in the streets cause that's all that's left.
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