Decision time!

[SARGE67]

How is this not a violation of ones HIPAA rights to medical privacy???

COVID-19, Employers and HIPAA

HIPAA does not apply to employment policies related to vaccination status, but other EEO laws do apply, like the ADA and the Rehabilitation Act.

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[MTA]

I was just given notice by my department head, that a memo is about to be sent out from corporate, mandating the Covid 19 “vaccine”. I asked what would happen if I refused to take it, and I was told I would probably be let go. Guess I have a decision to make!


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What do you do for a living??

 

[45tex]

COVID-19, Employers and HIPAA

HIPAA does not apply to employment policies related to vaccination status, but other EEO laws do apply, like the ADA and the Rehabilitation Act.

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This will depress the hell out of you. I hate government

 

[m5215]

I was just given notice by my department head, that a memo is about to be sent out from corporate, mandating the Covid 19 “vaccine”. I asked what would happen if I refused to take it, and I was told I would probably be let go. Guess I have a decision to make!

A few weeks ago our CEO announced that the covid 19 vaccine was going to be mandatory but he made a brief statement that those that had a religious opposition to getting the vaccine would need to speak with HR and each case would be individually considered. HR sent me a form for me to write a statement as to why I religiously objected to the vaccine. My HR just recently got back to me asking if I would object to wearing a mask at work and maintaining social distancing with everyone which I responded that I was OK with all that. They also asked if I would mind paying for covid testing and the masks that I would need to wear to which I replied that if they wanted me to test for having covid and wear masks then the company should pay for all of that. My impression after this recent meeting with HR is that I will be granted an exemption on religious grounds to not get vaccinated. We are planning to return to work back to our offices in early October (been working from home for over a year) so they will be making a final decision on my case before then.

 

[SARGE67]

A few weeks ago our CEO announced that the covid 19 vaccine was going to be mandatory but he made a brief statement that those that had a religious opposition to getting the vaccine would need to speak with HR and each case would be individually considered. HR sent me a form for me to write a statement as to why I religiously objected to the vaccine. My HR just recently got back to me asking if I would object to wearing a mask at work and maintaining social distancing with everyone which I responded that I was OK with all that. They also asked if I would mind paying for covid testing and the masks that I would need to wear to which I replied that if they wanted me to test for having covid and wear masks then the company should pay for all of that. My impression after this recent meeting with HR is that I will be granted an exemption on religious grounds to not get vaccinated. We are planning to return to work back to our offices in early October (been working from home for over a year) so they will be making a final decision on my case before then.

Those stipulations from HR is to maybe brand you to the others and coerce you into getting the shot...

 

[m5215]

Those stipulations from HR is to maybe brand you to the others and coerce you into getting the shot...

My feeling is that they were "testing the waters" to see if employees would accept the costs of covid testing and getting proper covid resistant masks. I am sure it would save them a bunch of money but I was adamant that I would expect the company to cover the costs of all that if they wanted testing and masks to be used.

 

[rotor]

I don't remember the exact number, and that may be what I was referring to instead of the population of the country.

But the fact is, It's still way under 1% of a mortality rate. I'm sorry, but IMO until the mortality rate of disease or illness hits double digits, I'm not really that concerned, and surely not enough to risk a vaccination until that vaccine is proven.

Most quoted mortality rate is 1.6%. That is quoted. I am not here to argue that number. I just wonder why people think Covid has a 99.9% survival and don't quote the source of that figure. They believe what they want. Your claim of way under 1% mortality is from what source? Believe what you want.

 

[Axxe55]

Most quoted mortality rate is 1.6%. That is quoted. I am not here to argue that number. I just wonder why people think Covid has a 99.9% survival and don't quote the source of that figure. They believe what they want. Your claim of way under 1% mortality is from what source? Believe what you want.

Rotor, I generally do believe what I want to believe. There have been so many misleading stories and information, and leading into the "pandemic" was a huge political agenda with all the stupid mandates and policies, that I have gotten to the point, I don't believe much of anything that is said about Covid 19 anymore.

In all honesty, my posted number is irrelevant for the most part. I have already had Covid 19 earlier this year. Going to the doctor to get checked early next week, because I now suspect I may have it again. Didn't kill me the last time, and so far, I doubt it's going to kill me this time either.

What do you think the odds are I'll get the vaccine?

I'll give you a clue. Slim and none, and slim done walked out the door!

 

[CodyK]

What do you do for a living??

I’m a printing press operator. Company I work for is owned by one of the “Big-shot” media companies (don’t want to say their name on here, but if I said the word “Rosebud”, I’m wondering how many of y’all would figure it out!) I always have to tell people, “I just work the presses, I don’t write the garbage that’s in the paper!”


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[Sasquatch]

Most quoted mortality rate is 1.6%. That is quoted. I am not here to argue that number. I just wonder why people think Covid has a 99.9% survival and don't quote the source of that figure. They believe what they want. Your claim of way under 1% mortality is from what source? Believe what you want.

Even if mortality is 1.6% that still means a survival rate of 98.4%.

 

[rotor]

Even if mortality is 1.6% that still means a survival rate of 98.4%.

Exactly. This means 98.4% don’t die. It doesn’t mean they are well. My friend spent over 100 days on a respirator. Listed as a survivor. Many have few or no symptoms, all are survivors. My point is that it is not just you have the disease and either die or are back to normal, there is a great range of post disease side effects. My preference is to not get COVID. I made my choice. I do not want government mandated anything. Private business can do what they want, require vaccine, post 30.06/07, you know the routine.
If you feel strongly about not getting a vaccine mandated by your employer then you need to consider another job. If a store posts anti-gun signs shop elsewhere or put your gun away.
It’s not like you’re in the military where you can’t just pack up and leave and will get whatever vaccine they want to give you. I realize you are not the poster. End of rant.

 

[Texasjack]

Full disclosure: I had Covid last year and survived. My doctor tells me that she's treated several hundred patients and hasn't lost any. I absolutely DO NOT trust the mRNA vaccines. Nobody knows the long term effects. Modifying RNA was tried with cancer and they had great success at first. Then the modified white blood cells decided to attack other things besides cancer. Otherwise, chemo would already be a thing of the past.

Having said that, I have 91 year old parents in very bad health and I might have to fly. Out of fear that I might have to prove vaccination, I went to Walgreens and got the Johnson & Johnson version of the vaccine. It's only 1 dose, instead of 2 doses (now maybe 3?), and it's the old fashioned kind of vaccine that does not modify your RNA. I'm pissed off at myself for caving in, but I took the hit for my family so there it is.

Now as to the effectiveness of the vaccines, I personally know 4 people who had the 2-dose mRNA vaccine and still got Covid. A husband and wife down the street got the disease; he was vaccinated, she was not. His symptoms were a little lighter than hers, but not hugely different. They're now talking about maybe getting annual booster shots and having to cover different versions of the disease (delta variant, lambda variant, etc.). Someone made a t-shirt that says the final variant will be communism. I think they may be right. This is far more about control and obedience than about the disease.

 

[TheDan]

I was just given notice by my department head, that a memo is about to be sent out from corporate, mandating the Covid 19 “vaccine”. I asked what would happen if I refused to take it, and I was told I would probably be let go. Guess I have a decision to make!

If you tell them no and they fire you, I'll give you $20.

 

[CodyK]

If you tell them no and they fire you, I'll give you $20.

Shake on it?


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[Jarine88]

When I had asked my doctor about the vaccine, he told me to bring my epi-pen if I decide to get one. That was not very encouraging. I have been thinking about going for a medical exemption based on my allergies.

If that fails, I will file a religious exemption for mandated vaccines, as I am vehemently opposed to the use of aborted baby tissue used in the development of the vaccines.

I would prefer the medical exemption and not make this about the freedom of religion.

 

[alwho421]

gun free zones are unsafe
mandatory vaccinated businesses are unsafe, vaccinated people are just disease carriers.

 

[Grumps21]

We had a mandatory survey sent out at work last week where we had to declare our status. Most are still working from home with an estimated return date at the end of the year. I‘ll let them fire me versus quit on my own terms because...
1) we are already short handed with people jumping ship for greener pastures and we are struggling to keep up as it is. We won’t survive if 25% are gone due to a vax requirement. (The national number is much higher than that, so I suspect our actual numbers would be closer to the national percent). I’m betting that mgt knows this.
2) I can see the lawyer adds two years down the road once more effects are known about the vax and it is no longer pushed...”if you have lost your job due to a discriminatory vax requirement, call 1800-lawyers”

 

[oldag]

Most quoted mortality rate is 1.6%. That is quoted. I am not here to argue that number. I just wonder why people think Covid has a 99.9% survival and don't quote the source of that figure. They believe what they want. Your claim of way under 1% mortality is from what source? Believe what you want.

Which includes "died with COVID" (as opposed to death caused by COVID, the virus was merely present in the body), and "presumed died from COVID" (no testing was performed, they just think it might have been).

 

[oldag]

If you do decide to take vaccine, at least take the J&J vaccine. It is a vector type. Vector types have been used for decades. Unlike mRNA which has never been put in production before this. More risk, obviously, with the latter regarding long term effects.

Job market is pretty hot right now. Test the waters at other companies?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

We had a mandatory survey sent out at work last week where we had to declare our status. Most are still working from home with an estimated return date at the end of the year. I‘ll let them fire me versus quit on my own terms because...
1) we are already short handed with people jumping ship for greener pastures and we are struggling to keep up as it is. We won’t survive if 25% are gone due to a vax requirement. (The national number is much higher than that, so I suspect our actual numbers would be closer to the national percent). I’m betting that mgt knows this.
2) I can see the lawyer adds two years down the road once more effects are known about the vax and it is no longer pushed...”if you have lost your job due to a discriminatory vax requirement, call 1800-lawyers”

3) If you quit, you can't get unemployment.