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  • Jwages

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    Why does it take so long for the BATFE to process an NFA item? Don't they have access to computers? Is there such a big backlog? Do they only have one or two persons processing the paperwork?
    I'm not being critical of anyone, it just seems processing could be faster. I am ignorant of the process.
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    Daley_G

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    I can't speak about the BATFE directly (or most other gov't agencies) but I did a short stint as a contract employee in a local gov't office once. They kept telling me to slow down, and while I naively took it as a joke and brushed it off, one day my Director pulled me into his office and asked me to shut the door. Knowing that I was running circles around everyone, I expected this to be a "pat on the back" conversation. How wrong I was! The conversation basically went something like "Do you like your job here? Notice how nobody else is running around in a hurry to get anything done. We don't work that way, and if you want to stay you'll slow down too."

    Again - I only have the one experience to go on and it was for a small-ish local city IT position. But it explained a lot of things to me: 1) Because they can (as stated by @Hoji); 2) Because they won't hire more people (as stated by @unicom).

    Bottom line: they're going to get paid whether they process 10 transactions in a day or 100 so there's no incentive to bust tail.
     

    TreyG-20

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    Why does it take so long for the BATFE to process an NFA item? Don't they have access to computers? Is there such a big backlog? Do they only have one or two persons processing the paperwork?
    I'm not being critical of anyone, it just seems processing could be faster. I am ignorant of the process.
    Nothing Gov related is a quick process. Ever been in the military? Waited on orders or processed a leave packet? That shit will sit on a desk for months before someone even touches it.
     

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    V-Tach

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    Pus, they get around 90 paid days total off a year...........

    Never had a job with that much paid time off.........
     

    unicom

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    The only time you will see the government move fast is when they are trying to push a bill through that attacks the 2nd amendment or any other right that takes power away from them and gives it to the people.


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    skfullgun

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    Look at the USPS and you have your answer.
    My mail carrier is awesome. She is a rural-contract carrier.
    Still, the system is broken.
    When I order something from Amazon, they sometimes sub it out to USPS. It always takes several additional days, and then if it won't fit in my mailbox, I have to drive 12 miles into town to pick it up. Also, if Amazon delivers, I get an immediate notification that it's been left at the gate along with a picture if the item sitting there.
    If USPS delivers it in my mailbox, I usually get a notification the day AFTER it's been delivered, saying they delivered it yesterday.
    It's called government inefficiency - plain and simple.
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    wakal

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    Unionized thugs.

    They have "performance expectations," and no incentives to do anything else. Say, they are "expected" to do ten per day. There is no eleven. Ever. Because, unionized government workers. Superior performance is punished, while doing the absolute minimum in order to keep the post turtles, diversity beans, and just outright retards from looking like the worthless schitebags they are is rewarded with months of vacation and insane compensation packages.

    Good "work" if you can get it.
     

    Texasjack

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    Government agencies rarely have a deadline, and even when the legislature or congress puts a deadline in the regulations, there is usually a way around it. (e.g., We decided you need to add a highway map showing your location, so our clock starts over once you submit that.) When I worked as a manager, I refused to hire anyone who had worked for the government. People get used to not having deadlines and they can get to a point where they never make one.

    I did interview a young lady that I nearly hired who had worked for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ). She was in an air permitting group that had their activities significantly delayed by a disagreement between Texas and EPA. So in January that year they sent her to work in the emissions inventory group, which was YEARS behind on auditing submissions. She worked hard and diligently and managed to get quite a few done, so around April she went to the boss and told him she was nearly caught up on the work he gave her. Instead of thanking her, he blew up and started yelling. "That work was supposed to last you until the end of the year! Look how you've screwed me up! Now I have to take work from the other people and tell them to slow down even more!!" That was the day she decided to seek new employment. Government agencies work to preserve their bureaucracy so that they protect their jobs.

    We had an air permit that had to be renewed. Companies are required to submit the renewal application 6 months before the existing permit's expiration date. The necessary documentation takes up two 6-inch thick binders. So we did that. Five months later, the TCEQ called and said everything looked great, but they just changed their forms that go with the documentation, so we needed to resubmit those. It's about 100 pages. OK, we busted butts and did it. 5 months later, they called to say that everything looked great, but they just changed the forms again, so we needed to fill the new ones out. Now it was about 150 pages. So we did that and about 7 months later they finally approved the renewal. Then we had to post the document for public comment for 60 days, plus an extra 30 days in case EPA wanted to comment. Nobody commented, so we asked that they finalize the renewal. Well, now it had to go up through the chain of command until it reached the Commissioners and then they could review approval during their next session. Another 3 months wait. The interesting thing is that the expiration date is based on the original permit's expiration, so by the time it was finally signed off, it was halfway to the next renewal.

    Dealing with government agencies is not for the faint of heart.
     

    mylar17

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    My thought it mainly because there is no incentive to make it quicker. The market has decided how many people will deal with the wait.

    If the wait was less, then they would have more work to do.
     

    Glenn B

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    I enjoyed my government jobs, well most of them throughout my career in federal law enforcement as they always were geared toward protecting the sanctity of our nation's borders. While doing my jobs, I almost always got my work done in a timely manner and never once had a supervisor or manager tell me to slow down nor tell me the oppoosite because I did not loligag. In fact, they all seemed to love the fact I and others brought cases to a close as quickly and as efficiently as possible while doing things the correct way. So when some of you complain about how slow is the government and how slow are government workers in general, I see it as pure bullshit. Of course, i know that will offend some of you who always love to slam the government for any reason you can create but the truth is the truth and if you do no't like it, tough noogies. Granted, there are plenty of slowpokes in the government but not everyone is such and many government workers take great pride in the work they do and in the timeliness in which they get it done and sometimes they are even rewarded for it. Never once in 32 years of government service did I ever hear even a single supervisor or manager complain, or even hint, that someone was doing their work too fast or that anyone needed to slow down when in fact the jobs were getting done full speed ahead.
    As @Daley_G said - in a government job, there is no reward for initiative or "hard work".
    That is pure balderdash. I received 31 or 32 awards during my career. They included several monetary awards - not just certificates or letters of commendation. Being awarded those things was not due to being the bosses' buddy - most bosses could not stand me because when they were wrong, I put it in their faces and told them how to do it right (although some few appreciated my candor very much). Still though, I was rewarded for my work because they could not deny my accomplishments. So tell me again, how is it there are no rewards for hard work or initiative.
     

    skfullgun

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    OK. I'll rephrase. Many who have government jobs are unmotivated, unproductive, and insulated from termination.
    I appreciate your service, and even more-so your motivation and drive! You were evidently raised with a moral code and instilled with a strong work ethic. You are a notable exception.
     

    skfullgun

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    Meanwhile, we waited 3 months for a stop sign to be replaced at a dangerous intersection of two Farm to Market roads here in the county. Despite numerous calls to government agencies from myself and several neighbors - each agency fighting over who's jurisdiction requires their attention to the matter.
    One of the neighbors even picked up the downed stop sign and hauled it into the county precinct. They refused to take it because they said it wasn't their problem and the sign needed to be taken to the highway department.
    Guess what happened when they took the sign to the highway department?
    The neighbor still has it.
    We need a couple of GlennB's at the county and highway departments...
     

    lightflyer1

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    I bought one silencer and after waiting for 11 months I got it. Then bought another thinking the checks would go quicker. Not so waited 13 months for the second check even though they just did one.
     
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