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  • Texasjack

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    I can remember that during the early years of the Clinton administration, you couldn't find a PVC end cap in any hardware store. People were sealing stuff in PVC pipe and burying it. Sometimes they put concrete in the bottom so it wouldn't float up. By the way, that's not a great idea, as the moisture from the concrete in a closed pipe causes a lot of corrosion.

    Now having spent a time working in the pipeline business, I can tell you that the soil in some areas can shrink and swell with enormous power. We used to test pipeline coatings in the gumbo soil of SW Houston, and frequently it would pull the coating right off the pipe. Similarly, plastic stuff can be cracked by shifting soil. Not a big deal for most applications, but it could be for storage. A potential way to hedge your bets would be to wrap the container so that there's a buffer between the soil and the walls.

    Fixed defensive assets are often the easiest to defeat. The ability to move and to change the location of your assets can give you a huge edge. German defenses in WWII collapsed in less than a year; Viet Cong defenses were still going strong after a decade. Having a place - or places - to go could be useful.

    Personally, I'm old and difficult. If they come, I'll do my best to make sure there are fewer to come after y'all.

    Oh, and that bit about the iPhone also applies to any cell phone or table. Big Brother has been set up to track where you've been for a long, long time. They can listen and report even when they appear to be off. Not trying to be overly paranoid, but when you are considered an enemy of the New World Order, a little paranoia is a good thing.
     

    oldag

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    I know, so no one has to tell me the old adage that:



    Yep, it's a nice quote and a nice sentiment but truth is it is kind of ridiculous. Even if a civil war was raging to protect our rights and you were fighting on the RIGHT side, it still would be good and prudent planning on your part to have something stashed away for you to 'dig up' as a last resort kind of a thing. Thus, I just purchased two more of these:

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    I already owned one or more of these before my recent purchase of two more. I can attest that I tested one of them while I was still living in NY to see if they actually worked as promised. So, I buried one in my backyard for about 6 months. I buried one, containing a steel handgun (not stainless), two mags for the pistol, and about 500 rounds of ammo for it, in about December and then unearthed it in about May of the following year (don't hold me to the timeframe but it was at least 3cmonths although I recall 5 months). I was quite happy to find everything was dry and nothing had rusted or otherwise had corroded. In with the pistol and ammo, I had placed a silica gel desiccant can - specifically a Hydrosorbent Dehumidifier 40 Gram Canister - and put the gun into the blue "VCI" bag that came with the can. Everything came out dry and it had been buried in a fairly low spot that was usually wet both during and after the winter and the spring thaw.

    Now, I'd like to say I also purchased some canisters to protect rifles, in addition to those to protect the pistols, but damn they were expennsive. They also require being buried vertically and to dig down 48 to 56 inches of so vertically and then another foot or two (the cannisters are quite long to accommodate rifles) is a chore to say the least, and that only if you can find ground soft enough to go down that far. So, I just tested these that will fit many pistols and some ammo. It is a good product as far as I am concerned and maybe one you really should consider under the current administration.

    All the best,
    Glenn B

    Are those plastic? Just know that plastic is permeable. So eventually moisture will get through. Just depends on how long something is stored in them.

    Personally, I am not burying anything. Come and take it.
     

    Axxe55

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    Remind me not to piss any of you off. I feel like it is too easy for y’all to make a body disappear!

    We gots lots of feral hogs out here in the sticks. A shallow grave and a bag of deer corn, and I have heard there ain't nothing left for anyone to ever find!

    So I have heard.
     

    Catherine1

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    I can see both viewpoints.

    With that said, I am not burying a knife, an axe, a 'hawk, a rifle and/or ammunition.

    No offense to any person here.

    Old Lady Cate
     

    FNORD

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    Speaking of cemeteries, Arise:

    As to destructively shifting soil, a cell of sand handles that.

    However, something not addressed and difficult to nullify would be airborne Ground Penetrating Radar. Radar defeating countermeasures such as scrap have limited effectiveness and can signal cause for investigation.

    Apologies for any unwarranted resurrection.
     

    candcallen

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    Speaking of cemeteries, Arise:

    As to destructively shifting soil, a cell of sand handles that.

    However, something not addressed and difficult to nullify would be airborne Ground Penetrating Radar. Radar defeating countermeasures such as scrap have limited effectiveness and can signal cause for investigation.

    Apologies for any unwarranted resurrection.
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    jordanmills

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    Having been on a few "metal detecting" excursions, I'm running scenarios through my mind.
    What really throws off a guy with a decent, recent technology, detector that's getting steel, brass, copper and lead readings in an area that's only providing some rusted nails and a few pennies?
    An aluminum can thrown in for good measure.
    I was really thinking about some precious metals, but I think I'm talking myself out of it.
    If you bury them deep enough (like the bottom of that canister) and they're not touching, it will be very hard to pick them up with almost any detector.
     

    Aus_Schwaben

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    When and iff you decide to bury metallic valuables, you may also want to consider burying well rusted/corroded junk over varying depths about one to three feet about your valuables. They get a beep from the metal detector and did and find junk at 12 inches. They try again and find junk at 1.5 feet, they do it all gain and find more junk at 3 feet, hopefully they are lazy and likely to stop digging by that point thinking it is all only junk. Think about it if you are going to do it.
    With the advent of ground penetrating radar (GPR), it would pay to create several "dummy" containers with enough metal to show up on the GPR. Bury them randomly to frustrate the searchers as time and money are their enemies as well.
     

    jordanmills

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    If confiscation starts, the answer is not individuals having hidey-holes. The solution is for patriots to take up their arms and fight the next war of independence and thus free everyone.
    Can you not imagine a situation where they'd come to your home and you'd let them take what you have there to save your family, then disappear since you know where you can replace some of your tools?
     

    jordanmills

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    Speaking of cemeteries, Arise:

    As to destructively shifting soil, a cell of sand handles that.

    However, something not addressed and difficult to nullify would be airborne Ground Penetrating Radar. Radar defeating countermeasures such as scrap have limited effectiveness and can signal cause for investigation.

    Apologies for any unwarranted resurrection.
    I didn't even notice that the posts were from a month ago... a year ago.
     
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