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  • Aus_Schwaben

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    I still remember when the local police departments had to disband their "intelligence" units, the fear being they were illegally surveilling citizens. Things have come full circle.
     

    rotor

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    ATF agents taking pix of license plates at gun shows. Parler would be pretty tough to track. I worked at USPS once and they had a really good postal inspector system.
    If the government was so good at tracking this stuff how come they rarely catch people before they go on a killing spree even when their parents alert the FBI (FedEx case).
     

    andre3k

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    Open Source social media intelligence gathering has a place at any law enforcement agency. I skimmed over the article and nothing seemed out of the ordinary to me are far as their intelligence gathering activities on social media.

    I use it on my job as well and it's a valuable asset. If I create an social media account and crooks add me as a "friend" and display their illegal activities on a live stream and I'm in position to stop a violent crime or prevent one then I consider that a win - no laws were broken or rights were violated through my intell gathering.

    This is the type of stuff that the public sees very little of. I have put just as many gang members in jail by trolling their social media than I have riding in a police car.

    The gangs love me so much they put my squad in one of their music videos. We spotted documented gang members on livestream with guns and decided to pay a visit. They had spotters at the front gate and were able to hide the guns before we rolled in. At 00:57 they managed to pull a pistol out and get a shot with it while we were still there. We show up in the video at 2:30.




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    popper

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    Wonder what Sheila would say if you posted that on HER FB?Evidently the Space Force will mostly be cyber detectives too. LOL, Gov breaches are some of the biggest.
     

    Vaquero

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    Open Source social media intelligence gathering has a place at any law enforcement agency. I skimmed over the article and nothing seemed out of the ordinary to me are far as their intelligence gathering activities on social media.

    I use it on my job as well and it's a valuable asset. If I create an social media account and crooks add me as a "friend" and display their illegal activities on a live stream and I'm in position to stop a violent crime or prevent one then I consider that a win - no laws were broken or rights were violated through my intell gathering.

    This is the type of stuff that the public sees very little of. I have put just as many gang members in jail by trolling their social media than I have riding in a police car.

    The gangs love me so much they put my squad in one of their music videos. We spotted documented gang members on livestream with guns and decided to pay a visit. They had spotters at the front gate and were able to hide the guns before we rolled in. At 00:57 they managed to pull a pistol out and get a shot with it while we were still there. We show up in the video at 2:30.




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    BBL

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    "The law enforcement arm of the U.S. Postal Service"
    Wait, what? Isn't that gross overreach of authority? The USPS is a POSTAL SERVICE, not a spy service. We pay them to deliver mail, not secrets.
    Is this an April Fools joke? This does not sound right at all.
     

    pronstar

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    "The law enforcement arm of the U.S. Postal Service"
    Wait, what? Isn't that gross overreach of authority? The USPS is a POSTAL SERVICE, not a spy service. We pay them to deliver mail, not secrets.
    Is this an April Fools joke? This does not sound right at all.

    We also have a constitution that supposedly protects our freedoms, yet here we are...


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    BBL

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    Well who do you report the theft of mail to???? Packages, etc. Their job is to figure who dun-it, I'm betting mostly employees.
    Sure, an inspector may investigate. But I did not know that USPS dabbled in enforcement too. Do they hunt people down, slam them to their squad car, handcuff them and haul them away with a siren?
     

    rotor

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    Sure, an inspector may investigate. But I did not know that USPS dabbled in enforcement too. Do they hunt people down, slam them to their squad car, handcuff them and haul them away with a siren?
    Yes they do.
     

    deemus

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    Sure, an inspector may investigate. But I did not know that USPS dabbled in enforcement too. Do they hunt people down, slam them to their squad car, handcuff them and haul them away with a siren?

    yep. And it’s a federal crime.
     

    SA_Steve

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    I remember when the 17 intelligence agencies all chimed in against Trump as part of one of the impeachments. Don't remember the post office on that long list. Guess we are up to 18 now.
     

    karlac

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    Dealt with them a few months back when we had a rash of mail thefts from rural mail boxes.

    Me and some of the neighbors had videos of the 3AM thefts (methheads ain't all that smart) from our security cameras that were posted on our POA Facebook group.

    Being on the POA, and with everyone's approval, I arranged for a Postal Inspector to see those videos.

    Spent some time dealing with the situation and was impressed with their professionalism.

    Even had the lead Inspectors email and cellphone and talked to him a number of times during the evening at his home.

    Not normally impressed with USPS in the big city, but out in the boonies they seem a cut above the urban cesspool variety ...
     

    Wiliamr

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    A little history for you all. The US Postal Inspection Service has origins dating back to late 1770's. When the US came into being Ben Franklin was the first Post Master General and he created what was called Postal Surveyor that position lasted till 1801. The Surveyor was charged with protecting the mails and t hat was a law enforcement job. Surveyor became Special Agents of the US Post Office in 1801 and lasted till 1880 when Congress changed the name to Inspector. The Postal Inspection service is actually the oldest law enforcement agency of the federal government.

    They are in charge of all postal related crime. This includes mail smuggling, fraud, theft as well as theft of postal property and mail boxes, etc. They also investigate Postal employees criminal behavior as well as crimes against Postal employees. In the last 20 years or so mailing bombs, chemical agents as well as biological agents has become a huge process. They do a lot to protect the public that no one ever hears about.

    Best example I am personally acquainted with was just after the 9-11 attacks, anthrax was being mailed to members of Congress and other people. That anthrax was leaking into the mails and was being spread through the mail system. They spent a lot of time tracking the people who mailed that stuff down as well as being available to go to Post Offices where suspicious powder was found. I was in one of those facilities when powder was found on a bunch of mail.. Turned out to be just cocaine mailed from Florida to someone in Grapevine, but still was a scary day. The clerks had to take showers at the station, their clothes confiscated and all the facility was scrubbed.

    Give this a consideration - a bad actor can mail chemicals or biologicals that are transported by plane over the USA. With little problem, a pressure sensor and a small explosive charge can spread that from the cargo hold over a huge area of a town as well as bring the plane down. That is the sort of thing the Postal Inspection Service is working to prevent.
     
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