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    Based on posting history, Victoria.
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    Sam7sf

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    diesel trucks will always have advantages vs gasoline. Biggest being fuel type. Diesel is like having a breakfast with more calories. Diesel has more energy to be released.

    Also the engine life tends to be better. Tends to because I know a lot of factors comes into play but overall they last longer.

    imo the bad is no regulation on the cetane and pushing fuel to be super low in sulfur. Gasoline is really regulated and you don’t need fuel additives. Diesel however I do recommend them for injectors and a bump in cetane certainly will add more mpg’s.

    I’m gonna keep my diesel Colorado alive as long as I can but the next truck I want is a second gen 7.3(early 2000’s f250).
     

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    Sam7SF; All,

    SOME diesel engines will run just FINE on a variety of NON- pump diesel liquids, which can dramatically LOWER fueling costs.
    (I ran an IDI successfully on recycled vegetable oil for over 100K. - One of my cousins, who owns a centerfuge runs his 4BT Cummins-powered Ford PU on recycled motor oil.)

    Both he & I were operating a PU for less than 50 cents per gallon.

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    satx78247

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    Diesel threads always end up just like Yeti threads and Glock threads.

    MacZC7,

    Fwiw, MY personal favorite is the "old-school" 6.9 IH V8 (usually in 1980s F250/350 Ford trucks) or the Cummins 4BT (industrial engine) installed (swapped-into) in a PU or the almost as "old school" Cummins 6BT/5.9L.

    ADDENDA: The 7.3 IDI is also FINE, IF one assures by a THROUGH/CAREFUL PPI that there is NO internal erosion of cylinders/water jackets. - The last of the 7.3 IDI engines were installed in the early Spring of 1994.

    Everyone is WELCOME to buy any other sort but the OLD, SIMPLE, MECHANICAL, NORMALLY ASPIRATED diesels are what I like/want in a "pulling"/work truck, especially with a ZF 5-speed behind it.
    (Those diesels are about as near BULLETPROOF as diesel engines come. = In over 3 decades, I've NOT seen any of the 3 engines "worn-out in service".)

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    MacZC7,

    Fwiw, MY personal favorite is the "old-school" 6.9 IH V8 (usually in 1980s F250/350 Ford trucks) or the Cummins 4BT (industrial engine) installed (swapped-into) in a PU or the almost as "old school" Cummins 6BT/5.9L.

    ADDENDA: The 7.3 IDI is also FINE, IF one assures by a THROUGH/CAREFUL PPI that there is NO internal erosion of cylinders/water jackets. - The last of the 7.3 IDI engines were installed in the early Spring of 1994.

    Everyone is WELCOME to buy any other sort but the OLD, SIMPLE, MECHANICAL, NORMALLY ASPIRATED diesels are what I like/want in a "pulling"/work truck, especially with a ZF 5-speed behind it.
    (Those diesels are about as near BULLETPROOF as diesel engines come. = In over 3 decades, I've NOT seen any of the 3 engines "worn-out in service".)

    yours, satx

    That's all fine and dandy if you're okay topping out at 60 mph on flat roads.

    Engines that don't produce much power tend to live long lives.

    Don't fool yourself into believing they are somehow superior to anything new on the road today. If they had anything to offer they'd still be an option.
     

    Mike_from_Texas

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    That's all fine and dandy if you're okay topping out at 60 mph on flat roads.

    Engines that don't produce much power tend to live long lives.

    Don't fool yourself into believing they are somehow superior to anything new on the road today. If they had anything to offer they'd still be an option.

    Yep. My 6.0 could easily out tow my 7.3L and it was tuned. My current Cummins will absolutely destroy either of them. I mean not even close.


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    MacZC7

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    That's all fine and dandy if you're okay topping out at 60 mph on flat roads.

    Engines that don't produce much power tend to live long lives.

    Don't fool yourself into believing they are somehow superior to anything new on the road today. If they had anything to offer they'd still be an option.
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    That's all fine and dandy if you're okay topping out at 60 mph on flat roads.

    Engines that don't produce much power tend to live long lives.

    Don't fool yourself into believing they are somehow superior to anything new on the road today. If they had anything to offer they'd still be an option.

    Dawico,

    PITY that you OBVIOUSLY haven't driven a 6.9 with a 5-speed ZF out on the (often steep/hilly) roads of Texas. = My niece (Tara) got a ticket from the THP outside of Greenville in 2015, while pulling a ski-boat on a trailer, for 88 MPH in a 65 MPH area . = I ended up paying the about 100.oo fine/court costs, as the truck was in the farm's name.

    FYI, the 7.3 IDI in a F-350 will easily break the 100MPH barrier.

    The MAIN reason that the IDI engine is no longer in Ford trucks is that it was cheaper to build their own 7.3 diesel than pay royalties for the International Harvester engine.

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    Dawico,

    PITY that you OBVIOUSLY haven't driven a 6.9 with a 5-speed ZF out on the (often steep/hilly) roads of Texas. = My niece (Tara) got a ticket from the THP outside of Greenville in 2015, while pulling a ski-boat on a trailer, for 88 MPH in a 65 MPH area . = I ended up paying the about 100.oo fine/court costs, as the truck was in the farm's name.

    FYI, the 7.3 IDI in a F-350 will easily break the 100MPH barrier.

    The MAIN reason that the IDI engine is no longer in Ford trucks is that it was cheaper to build their own 7.3 diesel than pay royalties for the International Harvester engine.

    yours, satx

    International built the 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4 Powerstroke for Ford so what are you talking about? Same company with a different name.

    Ford didn't cut ties until they had their own engine ready (6.7 Powerstroke) that was started while still running the 6.0 Powerstroke.

    Do a little reading and maybe learn something.

    Oh, I know, your made up tales are better than links to actual articles with facts because you know a guy that knows a guy.

    Sounds like your niece found a big hill to drive down to get that underpowered turd to 88 mph if your story is even true. She was probably still on the pedal after climbing the hill at 40 mph.
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    Don't know much about Dodge/Ram, clattermatics to me. I had a 2009 F350 with the 6.4 (tuned & deleted) and it did fine then went to a 2015 Duramax 3500 dually. No comparison on power, fuel mileage, or anything else, Ford lost. The bowtie gets 16 MPG in runaround mode and I've seen over 21 on hwy. Bone stock. $8 worth of DEF won't kill anybody every 2 months.
     

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    Dawico,

    WHERE (other than the FREQUENTLY WRONG "Wikipedia") did you get your info?? = According to DIESEL POWER magazine, NAVISTAR is NOT part of FOMOCO & Navistar only made a FEW models of early Powerstroke diesels for Ford "on contract", though evidently Navistar DID design the first version of the Powerstroke.

    IF you spent LESS time making SILLY accusations against other members & LEARNED at least SOME actual facts before posting NONSENSE, you would NOT be LAUGHED AT "behind your back".
    (Fyi, I laugh AT your foolishness "to your face".)

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    satx78247

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    What’s next...organizing a diesel truck rally in an Academy parking lot showing off fender well color changing LEDs, mud tires that only see pavement and light bars to blind oncoming traffic?


    MacZC7,

    YES, this is "off topic" but one of my "pet peeves" is the OVERLY BRIGHT (after dark) light bars on some police vehicles.
    (The last time that I drove up to my daughters in North Austin on TX LOOP 360, I nearly crashed into the rear of an APD vehicle that turned on his "light display" just as I pulled up into the area where he had "pulled off"/stopped in the right-hand lane. = SUDDENLY, I was "blinded" by the MUCH TOO BRIGHT emergency lights & I still don't know how I missed hitting the patrol car.)

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    Sam7sf

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    That's all fine and dandy if you're okay topping out at 60 mph on flat roads.

    Engines that don't produce much power tend to live long lives.

    Don't fool yourself into believing they are somehow superior to anything new on the road today. If they had anything to offer they'd still be an option.
    It is superior. Jk.It has turn knobs and big giant icons for the radio. Just wish the truck had manual windows too! Lol
    It’s a simple truck for a simple man.

    You don’t need to go fast. People are just in a hurry to do nothing anyway.
    Or they can’t leave on time.
     
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