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Best Bolt Action Rifles......
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majormadmax,
To paraphrase an old saying: "37Million Commies can't be wrong."
(CHUCKLE)
yours, satx
So, is that a legit term in reference to bolt actions?
I have been quite impressed with my Ruger Precision Rifle in 6mm Creedmoor.
FireInTheWire
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I'm a Savage guy. Accuracy+price= sweet spot for me.
Yep. Plus the way they are designed is brilliant. Need to change a barrel? No gunsmith required - the barrel nut wrench and some go/no-go gauges and your set. Worried about needing the bolt lathe turned and matched to the action? No gunsmith required - bolt has a floating face.
FireInTheWire
Caprock Crusader
Great point!
Axxe55
Retiretgtshit stirrer
This would apply to most any action that has a barrel nut retention system. It also makes the rifles cheaper to manufacture since you can eliminate tedious machining steps in the production of the rifles.
Agree. I once dropped and lost a small spring out of my M700 and they would not sell a replacement but wanted me to ship the entire rifle back to them. A local shop found a suitable spring and gave it to me.
My first bolt action was a 63 vintage Win 70, and love it, had a early 80's model push feed and did not care for it. Other than my old Win, I like the M 96 Swedish Mausers, the the Swiss straight pulls, and the CZ 527 & 550 series
I had an elk hunt spoiled in Colorado when the Remington BDL soldered bolt handle was dislodged by United Airlines. Another problem with high round count belted mags in Remingtons is the failure of the extractor rivet. Both problems occurred in the late 70's maybe they have fixed them.
Axxe55
Retiretgtshit stirrer
The bolt handles are silver-soldered to the bolt tube. This is a very durable means of attaching parts if done correctly. If the bolt handle came off while being handled as baggage with United Airlines, it was very, very roughly handled. It happens very rarely. I have only seen a very few over the years, and have only experienced one personally. I had a stuck bolt, and was using a large rubber mallet to get it unstuck and broke off the bolt handle.
Extractor rivet failure is a very rare failure, even in rifles that have very high round counts.
I had one of the Remington 700's (a BDL) that had problems with the safety. What really made the problem bad is that you have to disengage the safety to open the bolt. The rifle would sometimes fire when the safety was clicked off. Surprise!! So I have to say I can't support the 700.
As for the A3-'03, it was a great rifle, but there are plenty of small flaws in the original rifles. Also, it's a bit redundant, since the action was stolen from Mauser. In fact, the USA lost in court over that and had to pay Mauser for every '03 they made - up until WWI. Once we entered WWI, any agreement with an enemy was null and void.
The Mauser 98 is the key to every bolt action. It's such an amazing rifle! I chatted with the chief engineer for Mauser when the NRA convention was in Houston. The rifles they make today are still based on the 98 design. I read a long blog from some Russian archaeologists who have been poking around WWII battle sites in Russia and the Ukraine. When they find 98's in their digs, they have to turn them over to the government. They said that even 98's where the stock had rotted away could be oiled up and fired, hence the government won't allow private ownership, even by universities or museums.
The Winchester Model 70 is a fine rifle with a much better safety system than the Remington 700.
Ruger makes some great rifles. I watched an episode of Myth Busters where they were trying to overload a cartridge and blow up the rifle. Unfortunately for them, they used a Ruger and couldn't get it to fail Finally, they did get the bolt messed up enough that they couldn't cycle it.
Savage makes a pretty decent rifle these days.
Weatherby probably belongs on the great bolt action list. They make some very fine rifles and the cartridges they developed outperform many commercial cartridges. (For example, check out 300 WBY versus 300 Win)
As for the A3-'03, it was a great rifle, but there are plenty of small flaws in the original rifles. Also, it's a bit redundant, since the action was stolen from Mauser. In fact, the USA lost in court over that and had to pay Mauser for every '03 they made - up until WWI. Once we entered WWI, any agreement with an enemy was null and void.
The Mauser 98 is the key to every bolt action. It's such an amazing rifle! I chatted with the chief engineer for Mauser when the NRA convention was in Houston. The rifles they make today are still based on the 98 design. I read a long blog from some Russian archaeologists who have been poking around WWII battle sites in Russia and the Ukraine. When they find 98's in their digs, they have to turn them over to the government. They said that even 98's where the stock had rotted away could be oiled up and fired, hence the government won't allow private ownership, even by universities or museums.
The Winchester Model 70 is a fine rifle with a much better safety system than the Remington 700.
Ruger makes some great rifles. I watched an episode of Myth Busters where they were trying to overload a cartridge and blow up the rifle. Unfortunately for them, they used a Ruger and couldn't get it to fail Finally, they did get the bolt messed up enough that they couldn't cycle it.
Savage makes a pretty decent rifle these days.
Weatherby probably belongs on the great bolt action list. They make some very fine rifles and the cartridges they developed outperform many commercial cartridges. (For example, check out 300 WBY versus 300 Win)
The Corps has used Remingtons for years so reliability in the .308 is certainly well proven. My personal experience shooting Mexican Steel matches with hundreds of rounds per weekend are atypical but two failures on the same rifle are two too many, NEVER had a problem with the Ruger 77 which replaced it or any Mauser (5) or Steyr (4) or the Winchester 70. Steyr is my pick of the litter. But then I like yellow labs! I had a REM BDL heavy in 22-250 back in the late 60's and it was a prairie dog machine for all us kids and ranch hands- replaced with custom 03 Springfield heavy bbl in 220 swift.
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We got sued over stealing the spitzer bullet patent, we realized ahead of time that the 1903 might infringe on mausers patents, so we talked to them, had them take a look, and eventually we ended up paying them 200,000 dollars for clips and rifles. The whole thing was considered "amicable"
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