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    Hans_Gruber

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    Generally speaking, I've always put my seatbelt on before driving ,not right before some one T-bones me.

    Obviously driving and carrying her to very different things, however the same logic should be applied.
     

    737shark

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    Not carrying a round in the chamber

    Just Stupid!!!

    this is my safety (trigger finger) plus hipster plus internal or external safety’s
     

    avvidclif

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    Well at least its a real HD look at the oil stains.

    Glad a neighbor let you take some pics in his garage.

    Lots of anti 2ND people own guns, Its easy to tell an Anti if they ever say anything about guns that includes the word But or except when talking about restrictions.

    What oil stains? Those would be from Pre-EVO Harleys. AND they're not stains, the Harley is just marking it's territory
     

    wiredgeorge

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    What oil stains? Those would be from Pre-EVO Harleys. AND they're not stains, the Harley is just marking it's territory

    Kind of sensitive (for Harley boy hehe)? BTW: When I carry my SAA out on the property I don't carry a round in the chamber as I use a western rig and if the gun drop accidently don't much want to shoot my foot off or one of my dog critters. When I carry a semi-auto, of course there is one in the chamber because I carry for a reason. Well, the horse is dead...
     
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    Wallace Dunn

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    Let me start by saying - this is meant to be a discussion, not an argument. I'd like to share my thought process and learn from yours, I'm not questioning anyone's judgement, needless to say - you can (and should) carry however you feel like is best for you.

    Having said that, I'd like to better understand - how come so many people (majority?) are carrying with a round in the chamber?

    To me, concealed carry is all about risk management. For me, the gun's purpose is to protect the people I care about, myself, and others when facing extreme circumstances.
    That being said, I also understand that in reality the gun can inflict damage to the aforementioned group, so I'm always trying to find a balance. Case in point: Even though I'd like it to be quickly available in the case of intruder, I also don't want it to be available to guests (and/or dwellers) that may lack proper training or judgement - so the final outcome is locking it in a quick access safe instead of just keeping it in a drawer next to my bed.

    But that's not the point, I'm here to discuss about a round in the chamber -
    What's the difference between carrying with or without it?

    The positives: In case you got to the point of presenting the firearm, you're ready to engage without the delay of cocking it. Additionally, if you don't carry S/A D/A or revolver, you gain the benefit of single hand operation.

    The negatives: Significantly easier to misfire, riskier in a situations of someone getting their hands on the gun (even without malicious intent), generally can cause a lot more damage in case of any "user error".

    Now, I see myself as a responsible gun owner, but I also acknowledge the fact that probably 99.99% of the people that suffered any kind of self-inflicted accidental discharge (whether by themselves, or by someone they care about) also saw themselves this way, so if the entire argument is "it cannot happen to me because I'm me" then there's no actual discussion here.

    To me, it's about comparing probabilities - very very low probabilities, but since there's a HUGE damage involved it's important enough to evaluate. It seems to me that the probability of [having to present] x [failing to operate because of the extra step required] is lower than the probability of [any accidental discharge].

    What's your take on the subject?

    (and again, I'm not trying to prove me/you right/wrong(!), it's about sharing thoughts and learning from each other, if you sensed that I mean something else then please know that I didn't)
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    craymer

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    I honestly don't know why you would carry without a round chambered. As far as risk mitigation goes, that is called training and becoming proficient with your carry weapon. This first part of said training is safety, including keeping your finger off the trigger unless you're ready to fire. If you're not proficient in the safe use of your handgun, you probably shouldn't be carrying it.

    If you find yourself in a situation so dire that you need to draw your weapon, it should be because you intend to use it, not to brandish it. If you're at that level of threat, the time it can take to draw, chamber a round, aim and shoot, you may very well already be disarmed, stabbed or shot yourself.

    Also, unless you're used to being in a situation like that (the vast majority, probably 98% of us are not) the adrenaline kicking in can make you fuxk up. Unless you have trained for muscle memory to do just that, it isn't going to go the way you think.

    If you're that concerned and not confident in carrying a semiautomatic with one in the pipe, then maybe you should consider a revolver.
     

    candcallen

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    Let's see, important first step in life or death response when your fine motor skill goes to shit...

    Got it, Make the fery fist step in responding and saving you like ss complicated as possible.


    No polock jokes now.
     
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