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  • ROGER4314

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    This is a truly fascinating response, deserving of and educational on multiple levels of analysis. Thanks, Flash.

    Ben, it sounds like you're still pissed off over putting you on my ignore list so many years ago. Just can't let it go, huh? That's OK. It's a shame that staff members can't be placed on the ignore list. I did try.

    You're the big shot now and you have plenty of revenge options. Gotta get even......…. ! As for me, I'll push the "off button."

    Flash
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    Hoji

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    This is a truly fascinating response, deserving of and educational on multiple levels of analysis. Thanks, Flash.

    Ben, it sounds like you're still pissed off over putting you on my ignore list so many years ago. Just can't let it go, huh? That's OK. There are a few knot heads on the list, you'll enjoy. You're the big shot now and you have plenty of revenge options. Gotta get even......…. Stay tuned!

    Flash
    You really could not be more off base.
    You are also mistaken about your entire premise of the situation with the kid’s hair and the school board.
     

    candcallen

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    Being a butthurt tard who cant think objectively is kinda ruining the whole thing as well.

    Just sayin.

    Dude, Stop digging. you are completely wrong on the facts and are so dug on on the fact you think this friend wouldnt do things a certain way its clouding your vision. Worse you haven't even made an attempt to ask this supposed friend. I know cause I guarantee you would have tried to put the world in its place if you gleaned any info exculpatory to your "theory" of what must be going on.
     

    ROGER4314

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    I've known most of our School Board members and shoot pool with one of them. We had a very enlightening talk today about "the big hair deal."

    The district made an agreement with the student that as long as he kept his ethnic hairdo put up and his appearance was not attention getting, they'd cut him some slack and not interfere with his hairstyle choice. That worked pretty well for about a year and a half.

    As the student got closer to graduation, he started to buck the agreement and stated that he intended to walk across the stage at graduation with his hair hanging down.

    As Seniors do, he stirred up a fuss thinking that he was close enough to graduation so they couldn't do much to him. Wrong! The District calls the shots until you walk across the stage. That pre graduation fuss is when the news media picked up the story.

    Yes, there was a change in the hair policy, but the student is the one who started the fuss.

    Flash
     

    Hoji

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    I've known most of our School Board members and shoot pool with one of them. We had a very enlightening talk today about "the big hair deal."

    The district made an agreement with the student that as long as he kept his ethnic hairdo put up and his appearance was not attention getting, they'd cut him some slack and not interfere with his hairstyle choice. That worked pretty well for about a year and a half.

    As the student got closer to graduation, he started to buck the agreement and stated that he intended to walk across the stage at graduation with his hair hanging down.

    As Seniors do, he stirred up a fuss thinking that he was close enough to graduation so they couldn't do much to him. Wrong! The District calls the shots until you walk across the stage. That pre graduation fuss is when the news media picked up the story.

    Yes, there was a change in the hair policy, but the student is the one who started the fuss.

    Flash
    I think you may have been lied to.
     

    ROGER4314

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    The kid made a deal and then he broke it. Petty? No...…. I'd find a way to make him unhappy, too.

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    candcallen

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    Funny the district never mentioned this "deal" in their statement, you would thing it would be important to show they arent picking on him. Still, If true they wouldnt have had to stealth alter the dress code.

    The kid however said he had his hair tied up to meet dress code and that's what he expects to continue to do. Weather there was a deal or someone saw him and decided to phuck with him changing things 3 months before graduation was petty and legally a loser.

    Another point is regardless of the dress code they lose this fight all day long if this kid files suit.

    How do I know?

    Students and inmates in prisons have won literally thousands of federal lawsuits like this on first ammendment grounds for decades. That includes suits that go all the way thru to trial or are settled at some point during arbitration.

    And HS kids are also winning freedom of expression suits over clothing pretty regularly lately. Suits that goto trial or thru arbitration.

    Before you spout off HS kids and prison inmates are apples and oranges I'll just cut that thought off here. Both instances cover grooming policies. Both cover hair styles related to tradition heritage or religious beliefs, inmates have even less freedom of expression due to loss of certain rights that kids in HS but the courts clearly say in both cases this is a non winner on the people enforcing dress codes.

    So I say again. Why pick this fight so close to the problem walking away in a couple months. Probably not the hill to die on and die they will, in the legal sense.
     
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    Younggun

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    The kid made a deal and then he broke it. Petty? No...…. I'd find a way to make him unhappy, too.

    Flash

    When did he break any deal?

    Are you saying he committed a thought crime by considering letting his hair down while walking across a stage when it would have literally no effect on anyone’s education? If that is the justification for all of this, it’s pathetic.


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    benenglish

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    When did he break any deal?
    That's the critical question.

    I'd bet Flash is right about there being some sort of deal. The television interview I posted earlier made it clear that the kid and his parents had been discussing the issue with the school district for some time before it became a hot button topic.

    But no one has said precisely what the agreement was.
    • If it was some informal verbal agreement, we'll never know what each side thought they were agreeing to.
      • Just for the sake of completeness, I'll note that the school district may have thought that confidentiality was part of the agreement and that the student broke the agreement as soon as he started talking about wanting to break it by his actions at some time in the future. That notion is so far-fetched it should be impossible; the district knew or should have known that everyone would look at this student and realize that the district, for whatever reason, was not enforcing the new hair code on this one kid. Confidentiality could not reasonably be a part of any agreement. Nevertheless, God knows we've all personally witnessed teachers and school administrators making shit up when they just wanted to punish one kid they didn't like. It happens all the time and anyone who denies that is a damned liar.
    • If it was a formal waiver of the rule, it should be a written document. Neither side has produced any such documentation that I've seen or heard about.
    I see sloppiness on all sides. I can forgive a teenager for being sloppy; he's a teenager. School administrators and parents, on the other hand, should know better.
     

    kbaxter60

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    Close enough, matey. Here's your Pirate's License:
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    Axxe55

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    In one way, I see it as a moot point. He graduated. What are they going to do to him now? Take away his diploma?

    From past experience, most school districts, change or amend the student dress code before the start of the new school year. Now that may well have changed since I went to school, or my children attended school. Don't know, and don't care anymore.
     

    benenglish

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    From past experience, most school districts, change or amend the student dress code before the start of the new school year.
    That might have actually happened in this case. I haven't been able to figure it out and no one close to the situation did much work to make the details plain. If you watched the interview I posted, you can imagine several different timelines.
     
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