The Untold History of the NRA

[Hoji]

Bump-Stocks.... I get it but come on, really? Those are really special accessories for modifying intended operation and not actual firearms. I've been told that they (the feds) were going for magazine restrictions and/or bump-stocks. I know, a slippery slope...

“The “bump-stock” device, used by the killer in the Las Vegas shooting, converts a semi-auto rifle to a full-auto rifle.”- Marion Hammer
This is a lie. As another former NRA president said;
'Mr. Clinton( or in this case, Ms. Hammer)when what you say is wrong, it's a mistake,'' Mr. Heston says in one advertisement. ''When you know it's wrong, that's a lie.''

She is the NRA.

 

[Nagorg]

Lots of lies... But I dont believe for a minute that supporting the NRA today is support for new gun control. I believe that without them and other orgs, the second amendment is a sitting duck.

The NRA happens to be in the crosshairs and needs our support now more than ever!

 

[Hoji]

Lots of lies... But I dont believe for a minute that supporting the NRA today is support for new gun control. I believe that without them and other orgs, the second amendment is a sitting duck.

The NRA happens to be in the crosshairs and needs our support now more than ever!

So much effort on your part just to be blind and wrong.

 

[Nagorg]

So much effort on your part just to be blind and wrong.

Said the troll...

 

[Younggun]

Pretty sure that Tom King has refuted those comments...

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/10/comments-by-nra-board-member-tom-king-regarding-80-lowers/

And a 12 year old video from a deceased Texas Ranger??? Comeon @Hoji Are you an Anti-2A troll?

I disagree with Hoji on many things, but the idea of him being an anti 2A troll is laughable.


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[Nagorg]

I disagree with Hoji on many things, but the idea of him being an anti 2A troll is laughable

Glad to hear... I just dont see what benefit there is to discouraging support for the 800# Pro Gun Rights gorilla that is the NRA!

 

[Hoji]

I disagree with Hoji on many things, but the idea of him being an anti 2A troll is laughable.


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Thank you soulless one.

 

[kenboyles72]

Glad to hear... I just dont see what benefit there is to discouraging support for the 800# Pro Gun Rights gorilla that is the NRA!

The NRA has been behind the majority of the control laws that's now in place. 800# gorilla? More like a 800# wolf in sheep's clothing. IMO, I think there is a collaboration between the NRA and politicians. Politicians cause a stir to "take down the NRA", which then causes the NRA to demand for more funds to fight for our rights, while both parties are rubbing each other's backs behind closed doors. The very few pro 2A issues that were actually won by the NRA, not just piggy-backed off another group's efforts, were very insignificant. Was it a win for the 2A? Certainly. but not enough to make an impact in the long run. The NRA is just teasing us with crumbs and no way will they give us a big slice of the pie. Don't just take my word for it or the NRA, do a bit of research and find what the NRA has actually accomplished.

I was once a big supporter for the NRA, but after researching on what they actually accomplished, other groups like the TSRA, GOA and other localized groups got more done.

 

[roadkill]

TSRA is the state level affiliate of the NRA. So you saying the NRA is effective?

 

[Hoji]

Glad to hear... I just dont see what benefit there is to discouraging support for the 800# Pro Gun Rights gorilla that is the NRA!

Because WLP does not need any more $10,000 suits and Marion Hammer can get a job and buy her own cat litter.

 

[Nagorg]

I think I might know where all this cat urine you keep referencing is coming from...

 

[Hoji]

I think I might know where all this cat urine you keep referencing is coming from...

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Are you sure you want to go here?

 

[Nagorg]

Just an observation...

 

[Hoji]

Just an observation...

Last chance. Are you SURE you want to go here. Yes or no question?

 

[Younggun]

I think I might know where all this cat urine you keep referencing is coming from...

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I’ll ask nicely that you stop with the ad hominem and personal attacks.

If you can’t validate your opinion without insults there is no point in continuing the discussion. We also have rules against personal attacks in the code of conduct and it appears that this discussion is heading towards a violation.


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[Younggun]

Last chance. Are you SURE you want to go here. Yes or no question?

I’d prefer that things remain civil.


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[45tex]

Once again, no support for the NRA while Pepe LaPew is there.

 

[HoustonDave]

Seems to me that judging past compromises and actions of the NRA by current "no compromise" standards is about the same as the 'woke' folks criticizing 'Gone With The Wind'. Why not check the historical context, hmm?

And sometimes groups who are theoretically antagonistic do wind up on the same side... 'the enemy of my enemy etc.' I once read that for all the anti-ACLU bias among conservatives, at that point (mid-'90s?) the ACLU had been on the NRA's; i.e. against anti-2A gun control ridiculousness, side of more lawsuits than against. Maybe that has changed in the quarter-century since, but should still be significant.

Does the NRA have a leadership perception problem? Oh yeah... and needs to address it. Bu it is probably the only organization around capable of mustering millions of single-issue votes, which makes the Dems tread cautiously in their quest to disarm all but themselves. Might be a good thing to remember when you start advocating for throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

 

[benenglish]

I once read that for all the anti-ACLU bias among conservatives, at that point (mid-'90s?) the ACLU had been on the NRA's; i.e. against anti-2A gun control ridiculousness, side of more lawsuits than against. Maybe that has changed in the quarter-century since, but should still be significant.

First, welcome to the forum.

Second, you've picked an interesting thread to necropost in.

Third, afaik, the ACLU has never stood up for the 2A. They consider it an outdated embarrassment and always have. I believe you're conflating the 2A with other issues. There have been many times in the past when the ACLU stood solidly with conservatives in defense, for example, of free speech. But the 2A? I don't think so.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me and I welcome that.

And by the way, I think what has really changed in the last couple of decades is the ACLU. They seem to have gotten really soft on the sort of "stand up for the rights of the individual" issues that used to earn them my respect.

 

[Maverick44]

First, welcome to the forum.

Second, you've picked an interesting thread to necropost in.

Third, afaik, the ACLU has never stood up for the 2A. They consider it an outdated embarrassment and always have. I believe you're conflating the 2A with other issues. There have been many times in the past when the ACLU stood solidly with conservatives in defense, for example, of free speech. But the 2A? I don't think so.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me and I welcome that.

And by the way, I think what has really changed in the last couple of decades is the ACLU. They seem to have gotten really soft on the sort of "stand up for the rights of the individual" issues that used to earn them my respect.

I think the ACLU has taken on 2A cases before, but they have always been tied to some other right such as 1A or 4A. I have never seen them take on a purely 2A case, and I seriously doubt they ever will.