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  • zincwarrior

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    That's a gross generalization and I have to believe a deliberate hyperbolic mis-characterization of my comment and the point I was making.

    In the interests of civil discourse, I'm simply going to leave it at that.


    ETA: Anyone who has ever met me can attest that I'm about as far from being a "hippie" as one can possibly be.
    Your words not mine.
     

    satx78247

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    Did you just compare the FBI to...the Nazis? Is this what passes for discourse on thread about Texas gun issues?

    zincwarrior,

    As long as "CyberWolf" is only talking about the 100% CORRUPT & CRIMINAL "cream on the top" of the FBI HQ, he's NOT far afield. = Some of those characters (Like COMEY. for example) I believe would say/claim/do anything to UNSEAT our current POTUS & no matter how IMMORAL/DISHONEST/UNLAWFUL.
    Further, some of the BHO "hold-overs" of the Deep State are equally or perhaps more HATE-FILLED, DISHONEST & CORRUPT. - Some of them have said in "public utterances" that they would like to KILL the POTUS.
    (It used to be that people who threatened the leaders of the Republic & their family were investigated & often arrested by the USSS. - Evidently, IF you are a LEFTIST DIMocRAT in 2019, you can threaten ANYTHING, including violence against the First Family & get away with it.)

    It's OBVIOUS that there is one set of "rules" for the ELITES & a more more inflexible & far more punitive set of "rules" for every ordinary "Joe" & "Jane", who are "unimportant peasants"/"deplorables" like you/me/other members of this forum. = As Nancy Pelosi said in 2016: We don't have to comply with or even listen to the ignorant, uneducated crumbs from flyover county, as they know nothing worth listening to. We can simply ignore them , as we know what is best for them.

    just my OPINION, satx
     
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    AustinN4

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    The FBI (upper management), deciding to unilaterally spy on an American election campaign and actively using foreign intelligence organizations (UK, Germany and Australia) to sidestep US Constitutional safeguards against spying on American citizens, is not "extreme".
    I assume you meant to put a ? on the end? If so, in answer to your question, yes it is.
     

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    Your words not mine.
    The issue is hyperbolic exaggeration of the point being made and an attempt (whether intentional or not) to create a false moral equivalency.

    Are the FBI guilty of committing the same degree of crimes against humanity as the Nazi's?
    -- No

    Are members of the Sr. leadership at FBI/DOJ (who call all the shots) personally guilty (or complicit at the minimum) of crimes against the Republic and it's Citizens, and using the general rank-and-file Agents as their "enforcers"?
    -- I think that's an obvious yes (but would be happy to let them dispute that in a court of law as part of due process).

    Is the same argument used by the Nazi's to attempt to justify their actions (or complicit non-actions) being used today - e.g. "just following orders" or "not my call, tell it to the Judge"?
    -- YES, regardless if intentional or not, even if never explicitly articulated or presented in that manner.

    Is the acceptance and "looking the other way" of rampant law-breaking, including "high crimes", by the entirety of our premier domestic law enforcement agency, just because the perpetrators are in charge, both reflective of the arguments used at that time, and does it not have the chilling (and eventually irreversible) effect of eroding the rule-of-law? Is it possible we may come to learn of any number of atrocities committed by those same perpetrators (or their direct subordinates) in furtherance of their crimes, should the veil of silence and misinformation be penetrated?
    -- Yes, and yes (in fact, some are well known at this point)



    That was my point, including the scope of comparison, and I see nothing currently to invalidate that statement.
     
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    zincwarrior

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    zincwarrior,

    As long as "CyberWolf" is only talking about the 100% CORRUPT & CRIMINAL "cream on the top" of the FBI HQ, he's NOT far afield. = Some of those characters (Like COMEY. for example) I believe would say/claim/do anything to UNSEAT our current POTUS & no matter how IMMORAL/DISHONEST/UNLAWFUL.
    Further, some of the BHO "hold-overs" of the Deep State are equally or perhaps more HATE-FILLED, DISHONEST & CORRUPT. - Some of them have said in "public utterances" that they would like to KILL the POTUS.
    (It used to be that people who threatened the leaders of the Republic & their family were investigated & often arrested by the USSS. - Evidently, IF you are a LEFTIST DIMocRAT in 2019, you can threaten ANYTHING, including violence against the First Family & get away with it.)

    It's OBVIOUS that there is one set of "rules" for the ELITES & a more more inflexible & far more punitive set of "rules" for every ordinary "Joe" & "Jane", who are "unimportant peasants"/"deplorables" like you/me/other members of this forum. = As Nancy Pelosi said in 2016: We don't have to comply with or even listen to the ignorant, uneducated crumbs from flyover county, as they know nothing worth listening to. We can simply ignore them , as we know what is best for them.

    just my OPINION, satx
    And now another esteemed poster compares law enforcement to Nazis. Bloomberg sends his thanks.
     

    satx78247

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    And now another esteemed poster compares law enforcement to Nazis. Bloomberg sends his thanks.

    zincwarrior,

    As horrible as the NSDAP was in the 1930s & 1940s (AND how the USSR slaughtered MANY UNCOUNTED MILLIONS of "enemies of the State" for 75 years), don't say too much unless you are willing to talk with me REALISTICALLY about the MASS WAR CRIMES committed against Blacks (both slave & free persons), CSA POWs & the poor folks (of all sorts) in the Southland by the DAMNYANKEES. = At ONE DY Death Camp in Point Lookout, MD, the DYs intentionally murdered at least 10,000 & probably 15,000 helpless CSA Prisoners of War for no reason except that the Unionists didn't want to spend the $$$ to feed our POWs.
    NOTE: My extended family had FOUR CSA Privates murdered at PLPOWC in just 8 months.
    (Only the absence of gas chambers/crematoria keep the DYs from using those techniques against other Americans.)

    yours, satx
     

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    zincwarrior,

    As horrible as the NSDAP was in the 1930s & 1940s (AND how the USSR slaughtered MANY UNCOUNTED MILLIONS of "enemies of the State" for 75 years), don't say too much unless you are willing to talk with me REALISTICALLY about the MASS WAR CRIMES committed against Blacks (both slave & free persons), CSA POWs & the poor folks (of all sorts) in the Southland by the DAMNYANKEES. = At ONE DY Death Camp in Point Lookout, MD, the DYs intentionally murdered at least 10,000 & probably 15,000 helpless CSA Prisoners of War for no reason except that the Unionists didn't want to spend the $$$ to feed our POWs.
    NOTE: My extended family had FOUR CSA Privates murdered at PLPOWC in just 8 months.
    (Only the absence of gas chambers/crematoria keep the DYs from using those techniques against other Americans.)

    yours, satx
    Are you serious?
     

    satx78247

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    Are you serious?

    zincwarrior,

    DEAD serious, just like 4 members of our family at ages 16-20YO were.. = How many members of YOUR family have been murdered in cold-blood??

    Did you know that in the DRAFT RIOTS in NYC that a senior reporter for the NY Tribune said that the dead & bloated bodies of Black men, women, children & even babies "decorated every lamp-post as far as one could see all over the City".
    (I've heard Northern historians claim that, "- - - -- while the lynchings were regrettable, that they were also understandable as many men didn't want to be drafted into the Army".)

    yours, satx
     

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    Did you just compare the FBI to...the Nazis? Is this what passes for discourse on thread about Texas gun issues?
    Man your ilk kill me. Did you call out the left when they mentioned the Feds were jack booted thugs? Hypocrite much?
    It was a comparison to what Nazis failed to do and what agents failed to do. Seems a lot more logical than the left calling conservatives nazis.

    Honestly, I think the Nazis were way more efficient than our FBI.

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    sharky; All,

    What I find "amusing" about the CLUELESS, under-educated MORON LEFT is that they call "conservatives", FASCISTS. = Fascism was a LEFTIST ideology & the FASCIST PARTIES, after "getting into power" became TYRANTS.
    Consider that the official name of:
    1. The German NAZI party was: The German National SOCIALIST Workers Party,
    2. Mussolini's Fascist Party's first name was: The Italian National SOCIALIST Party,
    3. Franco's Blue Shirts were officially: The Spanish Catholic SOCIALIST Party
    and
    4. Until shortly before Operation Barbarossa, the NAZI Party was an open ally of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

    Therefore, accusing any rightist group of being "FASCIST" is SILLY, contrary to HISTORICAL FACT, simplistic, UNEDUCATED, ignorant & UTTER NONSENSE.

    yours, satx
     
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    satx78247

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    TheMailMan,

    I wholeheartedly agree that there should be NO "but" ever uttered by anyone, who is an agent of the USA, when it concerns the enumerated RIGHTS guaranteed under The Bill of Rights of the US Constitution. - ALL of those RIGHTS pre-existed the writing of the BoR AND the US Constitution.

    yours, satx
     

    satx78247

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    Mowingmaniac24/7,

    IF the leftists who arrive here SEEM serious & are not just TROLLING, I usually try to engage them & hopefully see "what they are about".

    In the event that the leftist SEEMS to be simply trolling, I put himher on "vanish".

    yours, satx
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    satx78247,

    You have far more patience than I have as once I see lefty babble, 'bang' I employ the 'ignore' button.

    There was a time I would listen to a lefty and tactfully reason my outlook, but soon found lefty hysteria as a response not something I can tolerate.

    For me, it's far less hard on my blood pressure to not bother with em....
     
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