Burger King will roll out the Impossible Burger

45tex · May 22, 2019

Double Naught Spy said:
You're on the internet.

No I use a dial up connection directly to this bulletin board

pronstar · May 22, 2019

45tex said:
Do not accuse me of disparaging the holy whataburger. I did not! Are you trying to get me kicked out of Texas?

They also use cellulose in their food...just sayin’ LOL

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BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

pronstar said:
Considering they don’t want to eat meat, vegans/vegetarians sure put a lot of effort into making food that looks and tastes like meat.

The biggest issue I have with these “meatless” options, is the lack of protein. Or the type of protein - often incomplete - they do offer.

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Saying “lack of protein” from legume based food shows me you are still believing outdated dogma. Plants have all the protein your body needs. The current push for more protein in the diet is just another marketing gimmick.

The largest and strongest land mammals all eat plant based diets, including gorillas, which your intestines mirror much more that strict meat eaters like bears and wolves.

pronstar · May 22, 2019

BuzzinSATX said:
Saying “lack of protein” from legume based food shows me you are still believing outdated dogma. Plants have all the protein your body needs. The current push for more protein in the diet is just another marketing gimmick.

The largest and strongest land mammals all eat plant based diets, including gorillas, which your intestines mirror much more that strict meat eaters like bears and wolves.

I didn’t state a vegan diet lacked protein.

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BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

birddog said:
Buzzin, you mind sharing what you typically eat? I’m in the midst of a dietary change ( dietary dilemma) and have run out of ideas. I like vegetables and am moving away from the daily consumption of meat but I’ve already gotten bored with eating the same old veggies day in and day out.

Eat dark leafy greens daily along with oats every day. But we eat lots of brown rice, beans, lentils, potatoes, and all fruits and vegetables. Lots of herbs, spices, seasonings. Think Asian, middle eastern, and Caribbean types of flavors.

If heart disease is a concern, avoid much/any added oils and sugars. Only sweeteners I use now are mainly real maple syrup and honey.

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BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

pronstar said:
I didn’t state a vegan diet lacked protein.

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Sorry...I misunderstood.

But the “complete protein” idea is also a myth. Your body will produce all the amino acids necessary on a varied and calorie sufficient plant based diet.

BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

birddog said:
Buzzin, you mind sharing what you typically eat? I’m in the midst of a dietary change ( dietary dilemma) and have run out of ideas. I like vegetables and am moving away from the daily consumption of meat but I’ve already gotten bored with eating the same old veggies day in and day out.

Also, we eat a lot of soups, stirfry’s, and salads. Lots of baked potatoes with black beans and grilled vegetables. I like to sauté all kinds of vegetables in vegetable broth and put them over baked or mashed potatoes. Frozen foods also help, and there is a lot of options. Especially in potatoes, with tater tot‘s and fries both white potatoes and sweet.

We eat some of the frozen meat substitutes, more for texture than taste. The frozen meat like crumbles go good on top of pasta, and the frozen patties go good over rice. Don’t try to use them like meat though, you need to cook them in an oven. I’d really like using my air fryer to cook these types of things because they brown up nicely. It takes some getting used to, but you can get there.

Trust me, if I had my Way, I’d eat bacon and eggs and biscuits and gravy every day for breakfast, a bacon cheeseburger for lunch, and a roasted chunk of animal flesh for supper. But the reality is it’s not good for me, so I don’t. I know what a plant-based diet does for my health, I’m living it right now. I still have something meet once a week or so for one meal, but anymore, it’s not that big a deal.

pronstar · May 22, 2019

BuzzinSATX said:
Sorry...I misunderstood.

But the “complete protein” idea is also a myth. Your body will produce all the amino acids necessary on a varied and calorie sufficient plant based diet.

You state it’s a myth, but go on to state “a varied and calorie sufficient plant based diet”. Variety is key

If someone ate 10 lbs of pinto beans per day and nothing else, it wouldn’t be a very healthy diet for a number of reasons.

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BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

pronstar said:
You state it’s a myth, but go on to state “a varied and calorie sufficient plant based diet”. Variety is key

If someone ate 10 lbs of pinto beans per day and nothing else, it wouldn’t be a very healthy diet for a number of reasons.

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Seriously? Who eats one single item morning noon and night all the time with zero variety? Certainly not people who eat meat.

By a varied diet, I mean some different plants. I am still talking about zero animal products. So my point is consistent… You can get all the protein you need from a strict plant-based diet.

But ultimately, you don’t have to vary your diet. You could eat nothing but potatoes, boiled and or baked, with nothing added to them, and your body will get everything it needs. That was proven by several people Who went on extended diet of just potatoes, one guy for over six months. He suffered no I’ll effects, and all his lab work came back normal.

Look, I’m not trying to convince anybody how to eat. That is certainly your call and your choice. But I will argue false facts, and there are a lot of them when it comes to eating a plant-based diet.

And as far as protein goes anyway, does anybody know the name of the disease from a protein deficiency? I’m sure you can find it on the Internet, but it’s not a daily problem or issue in the United States. We don’t have a lack of protein in America, from either meat eaters or vegans, but we do have a lot of issues with people getting enough fiber in their diet. And the only place to get fibers from plants.

And here’s one last thought to chew on, why is it that osteoporosis is higher in the United States then it is in the Pacific Islands, where they rarely eat dairy products? Americans consume more dairy per capita than almost any other country, yet we also lead the world in osteoporosis. How is that possible, when ‘milk builds strong bones’?

The answer is because the protein in milk causes your body to be acidic, and when your body is not PH balanced, it draws calcium directly from your bones to balance out the system. All that calcium you’re drinking just gets pissed away, while the calcium in your bones is depleted. Sounds crazy, but it’s a fact. That’s why old people break hips so easily when they fall, and it can become almost a death sentence if bad enough.

pronstar · May 22, 2019

BuzzinSATX said:
Seriously? Who eats one single item morning noon and night all the time with zero variety? Certainly not people who eat meat.

By a varied diet, I mean some different plants. I am still talking about zero animal products. So my point is consistent… You can get all the protein you need from a strict plant-based diet.

But ultimately, you don’t have to vary your diet. You could eat nothing but potatoes, boiled and or baked, with nothing added to them, and your body will get everything it needs. That was proven by several people Who went on extended diet of just potatoes, one guy for over six months. He suffered no I’ll effects, and all his lab work came back normal.

Look, I’m not trying to convince anybody how to eat. That is certainly your call and your choice. But I will argue false facts, and there are a lot of them when it comes to eating a plant-based diet.

And as far as protein goes anyway, does anybody know the name of the disease from a protein deficiency? I’m sure you can find it on the Internet, but it’s not a daily problem or issue in the United States. We don’t have a lack of protein in America, from either meat eaters or vegans, but we do have a lot of issues with people getting enough fiber in their diet. And the only place to get fibers from plants.

And here’s one last thought to chew on, why is it that osteoporosis is higher in the United States then it is in the Pacific Islands, where they rarely eat dairy products? Americans consume more dairy per capita than almost any other country, yet we also lead the world in osteoporosis. How is that possible, when ‘milk builds strong bones’?

The answer is because the protein in milk causes your body to be acidic, and when your body is not PH balanced, it draws calcium directly from your bones to balance out the system. All that calcium you’re drinking just gets pissed away, while the calcium in your bones is depleted. Sounds crazy, but it’s a fact. That’s why old people break hips so easily when they fall, and it can become almost a death sentence if bad enough.

Why do you keep quoting me, then make points unrelated to what I posted?

You’re a vegetarian - we get it.

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BillFairbanks · May 22, 2019

That burger is.....

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BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

pronstar said:
Why do you keep quoting me, then make points unrelated to what I posted?

You’re a vegetarian - we get it.

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I am replying to you specifically... I was under the impression that was the meaning of the "reply" link.

And I don't get hung up on labels...do you? And just to be clear, I'm not a vegetarian, since I don't eat eggs or dairy. And I'm not a vegan, because I eat honey and use leather products. I'm just a guy who eats mostly plants, who doesn't really GAF what other folks eat, since that's their business.

But I am responding to your misinformation. Specifically, you said "You state it’s a myth, but go on to state “a varied and calorie sufficient plant based diet”. Variety is key".

WFT did that mean? You trying to "catch me"? It IS a MYTH...that you somehow lack protein from a plant only diet. You do not.

The only real think a plant only diet lacks is vitamin B12. B12 is basically in the dirt, and we can get that in a lot of ways. Some folks use a cheap and simple vitamin pill. It's really not such a big deal.

And I do help folks who are interested in getting their health back on track. There is a guy in my mens group at church, who really wants to get his life back. He has a wonderful story...grew up in post WWII Germany, lived and worked all over the world. Came to the US and is the most pro-USA person I know. But he's in his early 70's and on all sorts of meds for high BP and arterial blockages. I gave him some info, told him to watch "Forks Over Knives", and in the 3 weeks since our first conversation, has drastically reduced his bad lab numbers and lost weight.

There is NOTHING that will get someone with heart disease the results that a lifestyle change will give them. No medications available today can match the results people get from a WFPB diet. No cholesterol meds, statins, whatever...nothing...and without any side affects or medical care costs.

This isn't about being a vegan or a meat eater...it's about how you want to live during the last 20-30 years of your life. How much $$$ folks want to piss down the toilet because they can't swap their bacon and eggs for oatmeal and a banana, or their cheeseburger for a bowl of rice and beans or some stir fry vegetables and tofu.

Do your thing and live your life, Brother...I'm out

TAZ · May 22, 2019

With how popular the meat alternatives are getting, what are the odds that the ones that actually taste good have a secret ingredient: meat?

Vaquero · May 22, 2019

birddog · May 22, 2019

BuzzinSATX said:
Also, we eat a lot of soups, stirfry’s, and salads. Lots of baked potatoes with black beans and grilled vegetables. I like to sauté all kinds of vegetables in vegetable broth and put them over baked or mashed potatoes. Frozen foods also help, and there is a lot of options. Especially in potatoes, with tater tot‘s and fries both white potatoes and sweet.

We eat some of the frozen meat substitutes, more for texture than taste. The frozen meat like crumbles go good on top of pasta, and the frozen patties go good over rice. Don’t try to use them like meat though, you need to cook them in an oven. I’d really like using my air fryer to cook these types of things because they brown up nicely. It takes some getting used to, but you can get there.

Trust me, if I had my Way, I’d eat bacon and eggs and biscuits and gravy every day for breakfast, a bacon cheeseburger for lunch, and a roasted chunk of animal flesh for supper. But the reality is it’s not good for me, so I don’t. I know what a plant-based diet does for my health, I’m living it right now. I still have something meet once a week or so for one meal, but anymore, it’s not that big a deal.

Blows my mind your A1C dropped to 4.4 on a diet with baked potatoes and rice. I’m diabetic and LOVE baked potatoes but they spike my glucose if I don’t eat fats before. A coupe fresh advocados before every meal seems to do the trick as long as I don’t eat too much starch.

The points you make are interesting. Thanks for sharing.

birddog · May 22, 2019

pronstar said:
You state it’s a myth, but go on to state “a varied and calorie sufficient plant based diet”. Variety is key

If someone ate 10 lbs of pinto beans per day and nothing else, it wouldn’t be a very healthy diet for a number of reasons.

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If I ate 10lb of pinto beans a day, the farting and methane production would most definitely require a response from the EPA.

MTA · May 22, 2019

I think eating meat daily isnt a problem as long as you arent eating fast food garbage. That sewage goes beyond the “meat” in the burger. Don't forget the fries and the 100 grams of sugar in the large soda too.

I eat chicken and eggs mostly. I will eat a steak or some pot roast if its in front of me. The biggest thing for me is the complete and total avoidance of processed anything and portion control. Once I did that, I lost 35 pounds and I feel like new. Way too big of portions in this country. Its disgusting what people eat and they are probably the same who want free healthcare

And vegans are still pussies

BuzzinSATX · May 22, 2019

birddog said:
Blows my mind your A1C dropped to 4.4 on a diet with baked potatoes and rice. I’m diabetic and LOVE baked potatoes but they spike my glucose if I don’t eat fats before. A coupe fresh advocados before every meal seems to do the trick as long as I don’t eat too much starch.

The points you make are interesting. Thanks for sharing.

From what I’ve learned, the issues folks have with carbs and diabetes are caused by cholesterol and plaque lining your arterial walls and blocking the absorption of sugar into the body, so it stays in the bloodstream.

The good news is when you stop eating animal based foods and switch to a WFPB diet, your body will heal itself. Your arteries rejuvenate and the inflammation go esdown, allowing your cells to function properly.

And think about this for a minute...blood flow is everything to a healthy body, and lack of blood means lack of oxygen to cells. In addition to heart disease, erectile disfunction, cancer cells, and dementia are all stimulated by lack of oxygen and blood. That plaque in your arteries builds up throughout your body, and causes lots of problems. Clean your arteries, and your whole body benefits.

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Big Green · May 23, 2019

BuzzinSATX said:
Some of you folks talking about this subject sound like legislators talking about firearms and gun laws...you really don’t know what you are talking about, but you sure know what is right and wrong.

There have been “meatless “burgers” around for a long time. Most are legume (bean) based, with other grains and seasonings.

The difference in the Impossible Burger is the use of “heme”. Heme makes the plant material seem more like meat in texture and appearance. It matters to some folks, and it’s a “gimmick” to supposedly help folks who want to transition from meat to plant based options.

I was a huge meat eater. These days, I consume animal protein maybe a couple times a week, with the goal of living on a 99% whole food plant based diet soon. I’m also allergic to most gluten (celiac disease), especially wheat, so I must avoid most processed foods (even most vegan foods).

If you have issues or a family history with heart disease, cancers, autoimmune issues, and you want to control your health destiny, you might consider getting educated on the benefits of eating more plants and less processed foods and animal based food.

I used to make fun of all this vegan stuff too. But then I had a wake up call during an annual health check. I was advised I’d need to consider meds for high blood pressure and high cholesterol. That was also right around the time I turned 50 years old, and have since had gall bladder removal, several severe pancreas attacks, chronic acid reflux, severe joint pain. And while I still have pain due to arthritis, it’s much less these days. And my acid reflux is history, as are the pancreas attacks. All without any meds.

My latest lab numbers from March speak for themselves. Total cholesterol was 138,
triglycerides 117, HbA1c 4.4%

And I’m late 50’s, rarely exercise, an at least 35 lbs overweight, and take zero meds. I’m Just starting back into a deliberate exercise program, but exercise is only about 25% of the solution. You cannot work off a bad diet.

You want real data, read the China Study by Dr. Colin Campbell. And if you see on the Internet that his work was debunked, that is a very popular but false story.

You can also watch the documentary Forks Over Knives, on Netflix and Amazon Prime.

Hey, your life, your health, your choice. But you can take control and get off a lot of medications and avoid many surgeries like bypass surgery if you control what you put in your mouth.

There’s also quite a few healthy folks eating a carnivore diet with no processed foods. The other end of the speectrum works too.

Dawico · May 23, 2019

I just don't see the point of going to BK for a vegetable burger.

Burger King will roll out the Impossible Burger

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