This could get interesting. SCOTUS ruling on liqour sales.

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  • busykngt

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    i’ve noticed that lots of states have govt control of liquor sales
    Yeah, I think liquor stores are state owned and operated in West Virginia. If there’s one area of the law in America that’s a tangled mess, it’s the area dealing with alcohol sales. It’s a can of worms!

    I still recall in my college town, at a pizza restaurant, I ordered a beer to go with my pizza. The waitress say, “oh no, we can’t do that... we don’t sell beer, it’s not legal here.” Literally across the street was a package store. But across the street was *inside* the city limits and the pizza place was “in the county”. The city was “wet” and the county was “dry”!
     
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    Moonpie

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    Liquor laws are mostly set up to make money for certain parties.
    Its archaic and monopolistic.
    Open it up. Make it competitive.
    The county I live in used to have those asinine wet/dry rules. It was retarded. There are still liquor stores on the county lines.
    I hope Wal-Mart wins their case against Texas.
     

    sucker76

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    What is the case between wallyworld and Texas?
    I wish I could go there and buy hard liquor. Every grocery store in many other states allow liquor to be sold. I need to get more familiar with the weird blue laws still on the books in Texas.
     

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    What is the case between wallyworld and Texas?
    I wish I could go there and buy hard liquor. Every grocery store in many other states allow liquor to be sold. I need to get more familiar with the weird blue laws still on the books in Texas.
    One of the weirdest: In Texas, no liquor sales on Christmas or New Years Day.
     

    karlac

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    Can't buy liquor in one of the "wet" counties in AR, close to where I spent a good part of the year. A certain church reportedly owns the few parceled out liquor licenses, incognito.

    That's archaic ...
     

    Charlie

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    Our liquor laws are archaic. They should be revised, but aren't to serve someone to make more money somehow.
    And, of course, they are in place so as to continue the monopoly and shovel funds to the state. The laws do not stop someone from drinking what they want, when they want. It's all about state revenue.
     

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    The Walmart in Anchorage Alaska has a sporting goods department where you can buy rifles , shotguns and handguns.

    Then up front as you check out there is a liquor store inside where you can buy hard liquor but it looked like the store was a separate entity like they have the fast food in some stores.
     

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    Interesting Texas history on this subject "Pinkie a West Texas Legend"
    all about Tom "Pinkie" Roden.
     

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    I was in California a few years ago and noticed liquor on the shelves at Wal-Mart. Available for purchase anytime-any day. A Wal-Mart in Michigan had a limited assortment of spirits behind the counter where the tobacco products were sold.
    I'm old enough to remember when the Texas Blue Laws had almost everything closed on Sunday. Basically only grocery stores were open (and the grocery store could only sell food items, regardless of what other products the grocer sold)
     

    pronstar

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    I was in California a few years ago and noticed liquor on the shelves at Wal-Mart. Available for purchase anytime-any day.

    Yup, and not just Walmart.
    Nearly every grocery store in CA sells booze.
    The only restrictions are, no liquor sales between 2am - 6am, and it applies to bars/restaurants also.

    Liquor licenses for bars and restaurants are MUCH harder to come by in the city, though. Most cities limit the number of liquor licenses, so the demand drives prices up.

    There are liquor-license brokers that deal with this. In a heavily populated coastal area like where I lived in Long Beach, a liquor license could cost anywhere from $30k to $100k +++

    Beer and wine licenses are much cheaper and easier to come by. But then you get crappy wine-based vodka, tequila and other garbage that’s really just flavoring added to a watered-down product.
     

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    Nothing but booze distributors pushing into dry cities and counties. 'Wouldn't you like to buy beer at the store?' sign the petition (collected by distributor people), get the rules changed. Even in ABC controlled states, same thing.
     

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    Basically only grocery stores were open (and the grocery store could only sell food items, regardless of what other products the grocer sold)
    Yep, first time I took my lady for a motorcycle ride was on a Sunday. After the first mile or two, she decided she needed a scarf. I pulled into a Quick Stop and tried to buy her $0.43 scarf (at the time); they wouldn’t sell it to me! Ahh... the days of Texas Blue Laws! P.S. - She did get her scarf; just had to distract the guy by buying some other “food” stuffs (Cokes, chips, candy bar) and “leaving behind” my change! A “five finger” discount, in a manner of speaking.

    Almost ALL states have screwy alcohol laws (it’s not jest Texas). And while I have no doubt that money plays a significant role in maintaining this screwed up mess, I think it’s origins lie in our collective American paranoia over alcohol. You probably can go back to the ‘Whiskey Rebellion’ that Geo. Washington had to raise troops to put down. But most certainly you can go back to the religious revivals, of the 1850s and the “temperance movement” that arose from them - ultimately leading to the 18th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States (Prohibition). Of course it had such a successful run, it only took thirteen years, before Americans realized ya can’t stop that demon liquor! And, of course, it took yet another Constitutional Amendment (21st) to undo it! ....don’t tell me, we ain’t paranoid about alcohol(!!) - just ask any Bible thumper.

    Being originally from the Blue Grass State, I grew up with the expression, “Bottled-in-Bond”. It ain’t jest the states that have to get their tax monies from alcohol - the feds come first and foremost - have you seen Jimmy Stewart in the movie, “Carbine Williams”? If ya haven’t, ya oughta. The confusion was helped along by the ‘Commerce Clause’ of the Interstate Commerce Act and its enforcement during the 1930s (especially as it relates to alcohol sales across state lines). However, In recent years, due to federal court rulings, its gotten a little better.
     

    motorcarman

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    I remember back in the 1960s/70s when Buddie's supermarket (or was it Piggly Wiggly?) on Randol Mill Rd. in Arlington had a hardware store as part of the building. The door was closed on Sunday as well as several aisles 'roped-off' in the food area.

    Could not buy items from some aisles on Sunday. I thought it was strange but then I was only a kid.

    I still sometimes forget to food shop after NOON on Sunday if I need Beer!!!!

    bob
     

    Moonpie

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    Gunz are icky.

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    The Walmart in Anchorage Alaska has a sporting goods department where you can buy rifles , shotguns and handguns.

    Then up front as you check out there is a liquor store inside where you can buy hard liquor but it looked like the store was a separate entity like they have the fast food in some stores.
    My dad bought me my first handgun when I was 16. It was at the gun counter inside the big liquor store inside Wonderland Mall in San Antonio.

    That was also the first time I heard someone behind a gun counter say, without irony, with a completely straight face, that if you were shot with a .45 ACP and hit in a finger, your whole arm would be torn off. I didn't buy it but my parents raised me to be polite to the handicapped so I just thanked the man and left with my Ruger BH .45 convertible. :)

    And, just for the record, I agree with everyone that liquor sales laws are deeply weird almost everywhere.
     
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