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  • xdmikey

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    I have to mow today(front & back)so if I’m able I may finish my decapping then mount my NIB T7 in preparation/anticipation of someone having a July Fourth bullet bargain!

    My stash will be hit hard if my daughter & son in law come out with us tomorrow or Wednesday.
     

    Deavis

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    Nice. Although I would beg to differ, on a small point: Automated systems, like the Mark 7, make it pretty easy to load commercially on a Dillon... although a Star/Ammoload, of course, are far more robust machines. I only work Dillons by hand when doing very low-count runs. My primary use for the 1050s at this point is always 5k or larger runs, which normally takes 3 hours, each, total, and my hands are only used to feed cases, primers, powder and projectiles.

    Although, to be honest, when I do 45LC, I only do 1000-1500, so I guess there are some runs of less than 5k I do on a 1050 Mark 7.

    Have you ever run a Mark 7 in production? By production I mean 8 to 10 hours a day, 4200 rpm, 99.9% uptime, 0 upside down or missed primers, zero missed bullets, all drops within .01, and stop on any bad cases (flashole swarf, FO, bent mouth, fingers, etc). 5k is a warmup for a production machine, not a session.

    I won't belabor my point but a Dillon is not a production machine in my sphere. It won't last under those conditions and you won't find many guys in the commercial space running them or the revolution. There is a reason Camdex and ALWs are the machines of choice, you can put 10 million a year on one and not have to rebuild it. It really is a huge delta in equipment that is hard to appreciate. The component feeding alone is night and day.

    Not trying to be salty, just giving an honest reply to dillons in my view if commercial loading.
     

    orbitup

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    I went to load up some rounds to break in my new 6X45 barrel and found out that I don't have enough Xterminator left. Having to redo load development anyway I went with H335 instead. They are neighbors on the burn rate chart.
     

    dee

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    I went to load up some rounds to break in my new 6X45 barrel and found out that I don't have enough Xterminator left. Having to redo load development anyway I went with H335 instead. They are neighbors on the burn rate chart.
    Not a 6x45 owner but I load for 6 TCU (basically the Ackley version) and benchmark works very well. 8208 I would imagine should work very well too.

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    orbitup

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    Not a 6x45 owner but I load for 6 TCU (basically the Ackley version) and benchmark works very well. 8208 I would imagine should work very well too.

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    I tried 8208 and got much better results with Xterm. Great velocity and groups. I'm using 87gn VMAX BTW.
     

    Maverick44

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    I had to burn some (a lot of) documents, so I figured I might as well cast while I watch the burn barrel.

    Ended up casting a bit over 400 9mm bullets.

    Now I just have to sort, powder coat, and size them.

    I've got some new powder coat powder on the way, and I'm excited to try it.

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    Maverick44

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    Preparing for a congressional run?

    Nah, thought I'd go straight to running for President. I gotta go delete some emails next...

    You know they make shredders......

    I have one that shreds 15 pages at a time. Rarely use it, but its easier than burning.

    I don't know where the shredder is, and I had about 2 trash bags full of stuff to get rid of. Burning was easier.
     

    Deavis

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    Started cleaning the processor I picked up from a guy who went out of business. Cleaning your equipment should be part of regular maintenance but apparently it wasn't a priority.
     

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    rmantoo

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    Have you ever run a Mark 7 in production? By production I mean 8 to 10 hours a day, 4200 rpm, 99.9% uptime, 0 upside down or missed primers, zero missed bullets, all drops within .01, and stop on any bad cases (flashole swarf, FO, bent mouth, fingers, etc). 5k is a warmup for a production machine, not a session.

    I won't belabor my point but a Dillon is not a production machine in my sphere. It won't last under those conditions and you won't find many guys in the commercial space running them or the revolution. There is a reason Camdex and ALWs are the machines of choice, you can put 10 million a year on one and not have to rebuild it. It really is a huge delta in equipment that is hard to appreciate. The component feeding alone is night and day.

    Not trying to be salty, just giving an honest reply to dillons in my view if commercial loading.

    I wasn't trying to assert that a 1050, in any configuration, was comparable to a camdex or ammo load when it comes to the volumes and qc they are capable of.

    I don't load commercially, but there are several-probably a 'bunch', lol- companies who use automated 1050s (mark 7, ammobot, forcht, and several others)... of course, once they get to the point of running a few million rounds a year of any one caliber, normally they are looking at moving to a camdex or alw- and for good reason.

    My personal fantasy is to, one day, run across a rusted, out of spec camdex in an estate sale, spend 100s of hours or several several thousand bucks rebuilding it, and then load 9mm or .223 once a year, in a batch of 20-30k, lol. Until then, I'll stick with my 1050s...
     

    Deavis

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    Rmantoo - I can help you with that dream, I know where a couple camdex and alws in need of serious love are located. Guy wants to sell them, the ales are a mix of ac and dc but all of them need a full rebuild. Also k own someone looking to sell primer fillers, which you will need. I prefer camdex but alws run well too.

    Today my son and I installed lighting in the shoot booth. Really makes it easy to see with the silver/black contrast.
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    Maverick44

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    My Hornady LNL AP decided that it REALLY didn't want to feed small pistol primers today, so after several hours of fighting with it and trying to get it to work smoothly, I gave up and sized/primed the damn things (all 400 of them) the old fashion way with a single stage press...

    The primer feed has always been a bit temperamental, but damn... That was just a frustrating experience.
     

    xdmikey

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    Dang, that sucks!

    Do you know what the issue is?

    I finally stayed calm enough to get the timing set on mine so when it doesn’t fully seat a primer I know the washer under the primer seater has moved.
     

    Dawico

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    Dang, that sucks!

    Do you know what the issue is?

    I finally stayed calm enough to get the timing set on mine so when it doesn’t fully seat a primer I know the washer under the primer seater has moved.
    The seater wearing a hole in the frame?

    I had that happen too.

    I took a long drill bit and drilled it out and dropped a steel pin in there. Problem solved.

    Long 12"x 1/8" bit and a cut off nail. Stuff I already had so $0.
     

    Maverick44

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    Dang, that sucks!

    Do you know what the issue is?

    I finally stayed calm enough to get the timing set on mine so when it doesn’t fully seat a primer I know the washer under the primer seater has moved.

    The seater wearing a hole in the frame?

    I had that happen too.

    I took a long drill bit and drilled it out and dropped a steel pin in there. Problem solved.

    Long 12"x 1/8" bit and a cut off nail. Stuff I already had so $0.

    I'll have to look into it a bit and see if I can see exactly what it's doing. It's feeding them, but it's jamming when the ram is going up. It gets caught up on the metal guide rod and usually knocks it out of that little cup on a spring that it rests on.
     
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