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  • baboon

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    Last time I flew anywhere was to go home for my dad's funeral. It's been a lot of years since.

    The whole trip was only made worse by the TSA agents, both going & coming home. Most TSA agents IMHO had the compassion of Joseph Mengela. And because of the way TSA acted I vowed I'd never fly again.

    I am actually glad that TSA agents have to work without pay during the shutdown. Kind of like karma for all the people they have bullied over the years. I read the other day that those who have to fly should expect delays because so many TSA agents are calling in sick rather then to show up to work knowing their pay is not going to come as it normally does.

    I hope Trump fires these TSA agents who call in sick basically because they are spoiled Federal Employee's who think they are all that! I'd bet those jobs could easily be filled by others who know their paycheck will be deferred. Lots of senior citizens could would do the job just for the benefits.
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    jetcycles

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    I fly several round trip flights a month for work, and I’ve had my fair share of interaction with TSA agents. I find many to be polite, courteous, and respectful. I’ve also found some to be downright rude, careless, and arrogant. It’s rarely wise to judge an entire group based on the actions of a few in my humble opinion. The TSA has a track record of lackluster performance, and based on that alone, I’d be happy to see them gone as well. I despise when my neatly packed travel bag has been rummaged through and carelessly repacked.


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    Brains

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    I don't fly much, but a decade or so back I used to fly at least a couple times a quarter for work. Coming home from LAX to IAH one afternoon I inadvertently figured out how to "force" a "random" secondary screening. I learned basically all I needed to about the TSA that day, when he looked at me, looked at my boarding pass with a very confused look, and informed me I was randomly selected. In the course of the conversation, I learned that changing my seat assignment at the kiosk 5 times qualified as suspicious and we both had a good laugh. My secondary screening consisted of sitting in a chair at the checkpoint chit chatting, a quick wand down with the metal detector, unzip my carryon and 2 seconds later zip it back up (not touching a thing), and wishing me a pleasant flight back home. Yep, I got profiled. Big time. Compare that to the other agent (also at LAX, different flight) who got all "authority" on me because I didn't put my ziploc baggie of toiletries on top of my bag, and left it IN my bag. I mocked him enough to make a point but not enough to draw more than chuckles from the other agents, and on the flight I went.
     

    Mowingmaniac 24/7

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    Like many, my interaction with tsa has ranged from courteous/professional to 'how do they keep from being fired' while being simultaneously arrogant and incompetent?
     

    majormadmax

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    I fly several times monthly, and the stories I could share would take hours...

    Several years ago I went through a terrorism course hosted by the Air Force Special Operations School, and heard an armed Federal agent share how TSA wouldn't let him take a cigar cutter aboard an aircraft. He pointed out he was armed, and was told he had authorization for his firearm but not the cigar cutter!

    I also used to get weekly TSA reports on what they "confiscated." I quit reading them as they were pathetic, the majority of its "seized" were for ridiculous reasons or simply forgetfulness of the traveler.

    I honestly doubt that organization has stopped a terrorist event in its history. What does do that is effective intelligence and proactive law enforcement and military operations. Overweight civil servants in ugly uniforms acting like they have some kind of authority (they don't) making someone take their shoes off, or delaying them due to a bag of mixed nuts in their carry-on (my most recent experience coming back from Honduras), is what gives TSA a well-deserved bad rap!
     

    ZX9RCAM

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    My last time flying I had to throw away a victorinox pen knife I had in a satchel I was carrying with me. I didn't even think about it when I was in line.

    It was something given to me by my deceased father, not great monetary value, but tremendous sentimental value.
     

    Jakashh

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    My last time flying I had to throw away a victorinox pen knife I had in a satchel I was carrying with me. I didn't even think about it when I was in line.

    It was something given to me by my deceased father, not great monetary value, but tremendous sentimental value.

    I also forgot to not put my now discontinued Benchmade in my jeans pocket before showing up in the checkpoint line. Thought I’d have to throw it away but hobby now has a kiosk where you can mail prohibited items back to you. It costs $20 and takes a few weeks to show up, but it’s worth it


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    Big Green

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    get a free patdown that I’d otherwise have to pay for in the seedier parts of town.
    I’ve asked them where the tip jar is before after that. They didn’t find it nearly as amusing as I did.

    I was flying somewhere a few years ago on orders and gave my normal “this is BS” speech to the guy rubbing me down and he mentioned he was also military, a recently retired Army Sergeant Major. I asked him how it felt to go from being overseas fighting for our liberties to coming home and helping deprive us of our liberties. He scowled at me but didn’t say another word.
     

    Shady

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    shrug I have no resentment to the guys doing the job its just that the job.

    As far as it over all it needs to go away.
     

    easy rider

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    Working for the Navy and traveling on orders, before TSA, I would use my DoD badge as identification. After TSA I noticed that if I used my DoD badge I was always "randomly selected".

    Remember, the people of the U.S. demanded this type of action after 9/11. Careful what you ask for.
     

    Southpaw

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    Just being a devils advocate, how safe is it to shoot guns inside a plane?

    With a 9, it's safe, but a .45 and this.....
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    Darkpriest667

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    Just being a devils advocate, how safe is it to shoot guns inside a plane?


    I asked this question like ten years ago and I believe the answer is still the same. Couple of things.

    1 - what are the bullets hitting?
    a - hits the cabin several holes in the frame - No problem the holes will create a small leak but no big deal
    b - floor - again no problem
    c - the cockpit - depends on what it hits
    d - a window that shatters - BIG PROBLEM this creates a huge hole in the cabin and it will depressurize almost instantly sucking everything in the cabin out (including you.)
    e - one of the fuel tanks (wings or on bigger planes in the bottom of the body) depends... possibly just a leak but it could also cause a fire and an explosion


    So again it goes back to the 4th rule of gun safety.. know your target and what's beyond it. Probably not a good idea to shoot on a plane, but if you're shooting I assume the danger of not shooting is greater than shooting.
     

    Sock Puppet

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    ...I would use my DoD badge as identification. After TSA I noticed that if I used my DoD badge I was always "randomly selected".

    Just curious, DoD "badge" or "ID card"? If I used my badge, I could see why they might think it's fake. I've never had a problem with an ID card.
     
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