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  • TheDan

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    On Oct 6th I took my Abarth to Nyle Maxwell Fiat for it's regular service interval (it's still under warranty). I was talking to the sales folks about buying a 4C and realized I had been there for about an hour and a half so I needed to go. I went back to the service dept to get my car and I see it still on the lift... I ask why it's not done yet and they tell me the oil drain plug stripped out and they will have to replace the oil pan. The reason I take it to the dealership is because it's still under warranty and I expect them to not do hamfisted shit like that.

    Service adviser dude says it'll take a week to get a new oil pan in. Fine... I ask them for a loaner car because I need to get back to work and they say there's none available. Fortunately the sales girl I was talking to was able to drive me back to work.

    A week later I call and ask for a status; oil pan not in yet. Week two I call again; still no oil pan. I get curious so I look it up myself. Found an oil pan for $60; ships from IL: http://www.fiatpartswebstore.com/products/PAN-Engine-Oil/8424375/04892916AB.html What the hell is taking them so long?

    Finally on Oct 28th my car is fixed. When I go to pick it up, the TPMS idiot light is on. I tell the female service adviser this and she says "the tire pressure has been checked. It's just cold thi morning so the light should go off after a few minutes for driving." I drive 20min to work and the light does not go out. I checked the tire pressure when I got there and they all read at 32psi, so it should be fine. I don't think they reset the TPMS when they rotated the tires. Another lack of attention to detail!

    On the way home I notice an odd noise under deceleration while still in gear, but not while coasting in neutral. I checked with TexMex who said the oil pan replacement requires the exhaust downpipe to be removed and the noise is probably an exhaust leak. I called and spoke to the service adviser that was managing my repair. told him of the TPMS light being on and the noise. He tells me to air the tires up some more and the light should go off. Says they've had to do that because it's "cold" outside. He also tells me that they didn't have to take the exhaust downpipe off to replace the oil pan, which must be BS. All you have to do it look at it and tell it's in the way of getting the oil pan out. Lack of attention to detail and lying... great.

    I aired the tires up to 36psi yesterday, but that didn't clear the TPMS light. When I was airing the tires up I noticed that the brake rotors had a big groove worn in them from the pads. Not "abnormal" wear, but definitely not something that had just happened. I assumed that they take a look at the condition of the brakes every time they do a factory service. I didn't have any time over the weekend to check the exhaust leak out, but this morning when it was cool it was obvious that it was an exhaust leak. As the engine warmed up it became less noticeable. So as of this morning, the TPMS light is still on, the exhaust leak sounds terrible, and I need new brake rotors.

    I take it into them today to check out the TPMS and exhaust leak.
    I asked the service adviser if the techs check the brakes when they do an oil change & tire rotation, and he said yes. So I showed him the big groove in it and asked "Why didn't they mention that to me when it was in here for three weeks?" He says, "hmmm, they should have..." No shit... more lack of attention to detail.

    They "fixed" the TPMS by airing the tires up to 38psi (or so they say), but could not find the exhaust leak. They wanted 2hrs labor, $98 each for the rotors, and $115 for the pads. Would have been over $500... Told him no thanks. OE rotors and better than OE pads already on their way for $196 total.

    Overall I'm just really disappointed by their service dept. Makes me really hesitant about taking the 4C to them. I did speak to their customer relations manager about that and she assured me that only their master mechanic works on the Alfas. Still doesn't make me feel good. Maybe the Maserati dealership will honor the Alfa warranty...
     

    texas skeeter

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    Somewhere here nor there....
    Sorry to hear of your horrible service experience with that Dealer. I find that customer service for just about anything these days is dropping off dramatically. We took our 2010 LandRover in for service and received the same bad service!! I mean when you pay top dollar for said experts to check/fix your sh-t and it comes out poorly, where you going to go next? LOL the easiest and not corrected was our low tire sensor warning light was on as well. I filled the tires myself, but couldn't the "FACTORY" Dealer service dept do the same before rolling it out? I tell you I CRINGE to see what my 2 young boys will have to endure when they grow up!! :banghead:
     

    coachrick

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    Dang Dan...The dealer is having a "New Owner" Meet and Greet/Basic Maintenance Clinic this Thursday. You want I should have a talk wit dem? I'm pretty spoiled by the treatment we've gotten from Volvo/Roger Beasley. I'm hoping our FIAT experience is much better than yours! ;) They sure talk a good game on line!
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    TexasBrandon

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    Nyle Maxwell Chrysler in Taylor was garbage from both the sales and the maintenance department. Back in 2011 I had bought a 200 from them as my second Chrysler Corp car and realized there is a stinking pile of shit called Chrysler that

    1. Can't make a quality car
    2. Doesn't haver a good sales team at any dealership I've ever been to
    3. Has an unprofessional maintenance department

    Today I am a proud owner of a VW Passat TDI SEL for my wife's vehicle and bought it from Don Hewlett in Georgetown. Outstanding car side service and shit gets taken care of for any maintenance or issues that may come up. They couldn't find the navigational unit in the dash and just pulled the whole thing and had a new one in in a few days. No B.S.

    Don Hewlett Chevy dealership for work on the Vette is a bit different. Good service but they charge entirely to much compared to Don Ringler up here in Belton which is closer and just a better experience. I needed a new HVAC control unit since apparently mine went bad. Took it in, showed them and got taken care of.

    Customer service is dwindling these days.
     

    TheDan

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    Dang Dan...The dealer is having a "New Owner" Meet and Greet/Basic Maintenance Clinic this Thursday. You want I should have a talk wit dem? I'm pretty spoiled by the treatment we've gotten from Volvo/Roger Beasley. I'm hoping our FIAT experience is much better than yours! ;) They sure talk a good game on line!
    http://www.fiatusaofaustin.com/



    Interesting. Wonder if that was only for new Fiats as I didn't get an invite. Then again, I don't think I gave them my email when I bought the 4C. Maybe Mr. Maxwell might actually be there so I can have a chat with him.
     

    TheDan

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    :laughing: I have classic Fiats as well... I've heard the Fix It Again Tony jokes for quite awhile. In this case "Tony" is the one breaking the damn thing.
     

    Younggun

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    Had to take the company truck in for a recall, got it back and half the buttons on the steering wheel were no longer working.

    They said they could look in to it, for a diagnostic fee.

    Refuse to admit they could have done anything to cause it even though the buttons worked the day before and one of the recalls was for wiring in the column.

    **** dealerships. Their service is worse than most standalone shops I've been to.


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    TheDan

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    **** dealerships. Their service is worse than most standalone shops I've been to.
    Finding a good mechanic is hard and too expensive for trail and error. I normally wrench on my own cars, but manufacturers are building in more and more stuff that can only be done by a dealer. I had a 98 c1500 that had a permanent CEL because after the crank sensor was replaced there was a code that required the GM factory scan tool to clear. Nothing wrong with the truck at all, but a bogus code that wouldn't go away even after pulling the battery. Dealer could have cleared it in 5min for $50, but screw that... Registered it in a non-emissions county and drove it around with a proudly shining CEL.

    Maybe we should attend wearing TGT shirts and caps ;)
    Might make more of a statement if I was wearing one of my Italian car club shirts. Uh hello; I know lots of people that would be interested in your cars if it weren't for the fact that your service is shit.
     

    TheDan

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    A customer care person from Fiat/Chrysler Automobiles reached out to me on another forum. She offered me free oil changes for a year (which means two) as "an offer of goodwill for the poor service experience."

    "That's great," I said, "but
    I still need them to find and fix the exhaust leak." So she told me to schedule another appointment with the dealership and she would call them. Since the odd noise that I thought was an exhaust leak was most prominent when the engine was cold, I parked it at the dealership last night. I drove the car for a technician this morning and he confirmed that he heard the noise. They diagnosed it for a few hours and then let me know that they had bent a heat shield while replacing the oil pan and that was causing the weird noise. They fixed that and so far the noise is gone.

    I told the
    customer care person that I didn't want to take my car to them for oil changes anymore so I didn't want the free oil changes. She gave me a gift card to the Fiat merch store instead. I've got a couple free overpriced shirts and a sweater on the way, lol...
     

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    The problem with vehicle repair (or plumbing, electric, air-conditioning & heating, and carpentry, among others) is all about high school students who are told to go to college and get a degree in gender studies.

    Our society no longer honors honest trades.

    That is why we have to pay out the ass when a toilet gets stopped up and the car won't start in the morning.

    I fondly remember the days when welders, pipe-fitters, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, and roofers were as highly regarded as doctors and lawyers.

    Highly qualified tradesmen make more money per hour than most college graduates -- simply because there are so few of them.

    Car dealerships rarely retain their best technicians.

    Experienced techs can make more money working for themselves or for an independent operator. But there are not many of them!

    God bless them all!

    Be well.
     

    Rebel

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    First, you bought an Italian car... :D

    Second, I guarantee that CEL on your 98' Chevy truck did not need a Tech II to clear.

    Third, call corporate. If enough crap happens, Fiat will intervene.
     

    TheDan

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    First, you bought an Italian car... :D

    Second, I guarantee that CEL on your 98' Chevy truck did not need a Tech II to clear.

    Third, call corporate. If enough crap happens, Fiat will intervene.
    That's what's really sad. This trouble wasn't caused by Italian engineering, but by hamfisted techs at the dealership.

    The CEL on the pickup could probably have been fixed with tuner cats or something similar, but all the research I had done at the time said the dealership had to reset it. I cant remember what the code was now, but other people had the same problem after replacing the crank sensor. Something to do with re-calibration even though it didn't need it; timing was spot on and the truck ran great.

    Corporate did intervene. I don't know what they said to the service advisor at the dealership, but I suspect they just told them that they'd honor whatever warranty claim then send in for the car. When a dealership knows they can bill everything to the manufacturer under warranty they become much more helpful.
     

    coachrick

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    Corporate did intervene. I don't know what they said to the service advisor at the dealership, but I suspect they just told them that they'd honor whatever warranty claim then send in for the car. When a dealership knows they can bill everything to the manufacturer under warranty they become much more helpful.

    I enjoyed flirting with Danyelle(Service Specialist) and Tanja(Customer Relations) on your behalf ;) Pretty sure they are both in your corner. I don't recall the name of the 'super wrench' fellow in the shop; but we should make sure he is performing any work done on our cars. I'll give them a shot for my first scheduled service.
     

    TheDan

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    I enjoyed flirting with Danyelle(Service Specialist) and Tanja(Customer Relations) on your behalf ;) Pretty sure they are both in your corner.
    great... I'm definitely screwed now :laughing:


    I don't recall the name of the 'super wrench' fellow in the shop; but we should make sure he is performing any work done on our cars. I'll give them a shot for my first scheduled service.
    Jeremy?
     

    southtexaspilot

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    I have always had the same experiences yall are describing with dealer service until now. I bought a Lexus from Northpark Dominion last April. Their service attitude is such a 180 it will break your neck. I don't know if this holds true across all their dealerships. They wash my car any day I show up while I drink starbucks and munch on gummy bears in the lobby. They gave me a loaner on my 5000 mile checkup. Before anyone goes on saying that I overpaid for a Lexus and that's what you get, I paid less for my GX460 than a comparable Chevy Tahoe. I doubt the Chevy dealer goes this far with their service.

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